Fan asks Manny, "Are you gonna take the tests or what?" Manny responds....

[V.WEBB]

I have gotten away from this debate because it is pointless, but sometimes I do need to make sure my view is fresh so newer people see it and know where I stand.

Oh yea, I agree.

[Pullcounter]

LOL. Yea, there certain guys that just don't bring anything to the table with this "debate" (if we could call it that), so I let them be.

lols... how ironic that someone who bring nothing to the table says I bring nothing to the table...

you wouldn't know what debate means if you looked it up in the dictionary.

[Pullcounter]

Any I repeat ANY advantage gained through PED is to much it doesn't matter if it only allowed him to throw one extra punch in the fight, that is one punch that he would not have been able to throw through his own hard work. Quit saying cheating is alright just because you don't understand it.

again i repeat:

what PEDs can pac or trollweather take within 7 days of the fight that will (1) be undetectable to urine testing (2) be undetectable to blood testing immediately following the fight (3) be effective given the last week of the fight, training camp winds down to light sparring, running, and fight promotion?

[Pullcounter]

I have gotten away from this debate because it is pointless, but sometimes I do need to make sure my view is fresh so newer people see it and know where I stand.

PLEASE!!!! your view and those of *****s are not fresh! you are just rehashing the same old boring arguments from 2009.

these so called "newer people" have been reading this same bull***** since 2009.

COME THE **** ON MAN

[goblin213]

Busy day today huh, Pullcounter?

[The Gambler1981]

no you're not... you're here to troll about PEDs. if you wanted to talk about sport, you'd be talking about fights that are actually signed and happening instead of trolling pac and floyd threads to talk about PEDs.

let's make one thing clear... I exist because you exist. for every action then is an opposite and equal reaction. The more you push, the more I push back. the less you push, the less I push.

I'd be more than happy to abandon the PEDs talk, but as long as it's the *****'s #1 rehashed argument, I must persevere and rehash my #1 argument against it.

It is what it is.

All I have to say is look at my history and look at yours. Look at the respect I get when I talk about the sport and look at the respect you get~ Look at the respect I give the sport and the fighters involved and look at the respect you give.

It speaks for itself~

[The Gambler1981]

again i repeat:

what PEDs can pac or trollweather take within 7 days of the fight that will (1) be undetectable to urine testing (2) be undetectable to blood testing immediately following the fight (3) be effective given the last week of the fight, training camp winds down to light sparring, running, and fight promotion?

Any I repeat ANY advantage gained through PED is to much it doesn't matter if it only allowed him to throw one extra punch in the fight, that is one punch that he would not have been able to throw through his own hard work. Quit saying cheating is alright just because you don't understand it.

[The Gambler1981]

PLEASE!!!! your view and those of *****s are not fresh! you are just rehashing the same old boring arguments from 2009.

these so called "newer people" have been reading this same bull***** since 2009.

COME THE **** ON MAN

Yea my views are the same because no one has a logical counter. It is great to be able to keep the same argument for this long and not have to modify my view one bit.

There are people new to the forum~

[Pullcounter]

Once you refuse 14 days it makes stances harden, if that was good with Manny he should have taken it back then. If he is not willing to do what it takes to make the fight happen that is on him~

well, once you slander your opponent by accusing them of PEDs it hardens their stance.

if wifebeater really wanted the fight, he'd just fight.

if 14 days was good in the initial negotiations, then I don't see how 7 days is not good enough, considering wifebeater/mosley had an 18 day cut off.

if wifebeater wants the fight, he know who to call. the fight is on him.

Any I repeat ANY advantage gained through PED is to much it doesn't matter if it only allowed him to throw one extra punch in the fight, that is one punch that he would not have been able to throw through his own hard work. Quit saying cheating is alright just because you don't understand it.

again i repeat:

what PEDs can pac or trollweather take within 7 days of the fight that will (1) be undetectable to urine testing (2) be undetectable to blood testing immediately following the fight (3) be effective given the last week of the fight, training camp winds down to light sparring, running, and fight promotion?

[Pullcounter]

Any I repeat ANY advantage gained through PED is to much it doesn't matter if it only allowed him to throw one extra punch in the fight, that is one punch that he would not have been able to throw through his own hard work. Quit saying cheating is alright just because you don't understand it.

again i repeat:

what PEDs can pac or trollweather take within 7 days of the fight that will (1) be undetectable to urine testing (2) be undetectable to blood testing immediately following the fight (3) be effective given the last week of the fight, training camp winds down to light sparring, running, and fight promotion?