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  • Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
    Floyd really doesn't have any part to play with this anymore. Sure he started it but Manny can end it anytime he wants and he doesn't need Floyd to do it. If Floyd vanished tomorrow this problem still exists or if Floyd relents and says I don't care I don't need drug testing to make this fight happen the question marks are still there.
    nobody believes in wifebeater's slander of pac except *****s.

    everyone has moved on except *****s. *****s keep living in 2009.

    Only one person is responsible for this mess and only one person is capable of cleaning it up~
    nope... wifebeater is responsible for this mess, but pac has already cleared his name by showing impeccable character while wifebeater has self-destructed.

    if anybody needs redemption it's trollweather and the only way he can redeem himself is to fight pac in the ring.

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    • Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
      Could have fooled me and probably everyone here~
      yeah, just like *****s try to fool everyone that they are actual boxing fans...

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      • Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
        nobody believes in wifebeater's slander of pac except *****s.

        everyone has moved on except *****s. *****s keep living in 2009.



        nope... wifebeater is responsible for this mess, but pac has already cleared his name by showing impeccable character while wifebeater has self-destructed.

        if anybody needs redemption it's trollweather and the only way he can redeem himself is to fight pac in the ring.
        Back in fantasy land I see~

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        • Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
          yeah, just like *****s try to fool everyone that they are actual boxing fans...
          Only dumb fucks would believe you can't be a fan of Floyd and to be a fan of the sport also.

          They are not mutually exclusive.

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          • Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
            yeah, just like *****s try to fool everyone that they are actual boxing fans...
            Shoop Da Whoop agree with you, they know nothing about boxing they just a bunch of Blood Doping Specialists.

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            • Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
              No your argument changes every time Manny team says something different; we will do any drug testing, OST are garbage 21 days is good, no 18 days is good because I had blood drawn 18 days before this other fight, man 14 days is bull****, 14 days is what I want!, 7 days should be good even though no one has ever really made that offer.

              Way to be consistent~
              yeah.. and *****s are really consistent too. first *****s said pac was weightdraining his opponents. then *****s said pac was fighting past their prime boxers. then *****s said that pac is on PEDs. which is it?

              first *****s didn't even know what OST was. then all of a sudden *****s want OSt. then a 14 day cut off is ok. then suddenly it isn't anymore. but then again wifebeater/mosley had an 18 day cut off. now 7 days isn't good enough despite the fact that *****s don't know of any PEDs that can thwart urine testing within those 7 days and an immediate blood test after that fight, that would actually give any boxer an edge in the fight given that training camp has already winded down to light sparring and running.

              yeah... way to be consistent.

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              • Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                yeah.. and *****s are really consistent too. first *****s said pac was weightdraining his opponents. then *****s said pac was fighting past their prime boxers. then *****s said that pac is on PEDs. which is it?

                first *****s didn't even know what OST was. then all of a sudden *****s want OSt. then a 14 day cut off is ok. then suddenly it isn't anymore. but then again wifebeater/mosley had an 18 day cut off. now 7 days isn't good enough despite the fact that *****s don't know of any PEDs that can thwart urine testing within those 7 days and an immediate blood test after that fight, that would actually give any boxer an edge in the fight given that training camp has already winded down to light sparring and running.

                yeah... way to be consistent.
                All of them.

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                • Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                  yeah.. and *****s are really consistent too. first *****s said pac was weightdraining his opponents. then *****s said pac was fighting past their prime boxers. then *****s said that pac is on PEDs. which is it?

                  first *****s didn't even know what OST was. then all of a sudden *****s want OSt. then a 14 day cut off is ok. then suddenly it isn't anymore. but then again wifebeater/mosley had an 18 day cut off. now 7 days isn't good enough despite the fact that *****s don't know of any PEDs that can thwart urine testing within those 7 days and an immediate blood test after that fight, that would actually give any boxer an edge in the fight given that training camp has already winded down to light sparring and running.

                  yeah... way to be consistent.
                  So what two groups acting like ******s doesn't make the situation better.

                  Be a part of the solution if you want to be called a fan of the sport, not one of the biggest problems~

                  oh and

                  Any I repeat ANY advantage gained through PED is to much it doesn't matter if it only allowed him to throw one extra punch in the fight, that is one punch that he would not have been able to throw through his own hard work. Quit saying cheating is alright just because you don't understand it.

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                  • Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
                    There are many ways to get people to do things, shaming them is one~
                    yeah... but it can also harden people's position and have the total opposite effect.

                    Any I repeat ANY advantage gained through PED is to much it doesn't matter if it only allowed him to throw one extra punch in the fight, that is one punch that he would not have been able to throw through his own hard work. Quit saying cheating is alright just because you don't understand it.
                    and I repeat:

                    what PEDs can pac or trollweather take within 7 days of the fight that will (1) be undetectable to urine testing (2) be undetectable to blood testing immediately following the fight (3) be effective given the last week of the fight, training camp winds down to light sparring, running, and fight promotion?

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                    • *****s still talking about PEDS while Pac was willing to fight Floyd. Pac will never bow down 100% to Floyds OST demand. its called NEGOTIATION! Floyd ask for no cut off date and Pac ask for 7 days! the problem is Team Floyd wasnt trying to negotiate anymore. You dont negotiate over some videos or some interviews. you negotiate face to face with the other team involve in the fight. If there was no 2nd negotitation Floyd clearly didnt want to fight Pac. you cant just make videos and saying that no cut off date or the fight wont happen.

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