Fan asks Manny, "Are you gonna take the tests or what?" Manny responds....

[The Gambler1981]

again i repeat:

what PEDs can pac or trollweather take within 7 days of the fight that will (1) be undetectable to urine testing (2) be undetectable to blood testing immediately following the fight (3) be effective given the last week of the fight, training camp winds down to light sparring, running, and fight promotion?

Any I repeat ANY advantage gained through PED is to much it doesn't matter if it only allowed him to throw one extra punch in the fight, that is one punch that he would not have been able to throw through his own hard work. Quit saying cheating is alright just because you don't understand it.

[WarriorSoul]

[The Gambler1981]

well, once you slander your opponent by accusing them of PEDs it hardens their stance.

if wifebeater really wanted the fight, he'd just fight.

if 14 days was good in the initial negotiations, then I don't see how 7 days is not good enough, considering wifebeater/mosley had an 18 day cut off.

if wifebeater wants the fight, he know who to call. the fight is on him.



again i repeat:

what PEDs can pac or trollweather take within 7 days of the fight that will (1) be undetectable to urine testing (2) be undetectable to blood testing immediately following the fight (3) be effective given the last week of the fight, training camp winds down to light sparring, running, and fight promotion?

That has nothing to do with the matter at hand, if someone slanders you, you should want to clear your name not make the situation look worse.

Any I repeat ANY advantage gained through PED is to much it doesn't matter if it only allowed him to throw one extra punch in the fight, that is one punch that he would not have been able to throw through his own hard work. Quit saying cheating is alright just because you don't understand it.

[Pullcounter]

Yea my views are the same because no one has a logical counter.

yeah, cause you think you're right and everyone else is wrong. of course you'd think that.

It is great to be able to keep the same argument for this long and not have to modify my view one bit.

well, my arguments are as rehashed as your's are. that means my arguments are just as great because I'm able to keep the same argument for this long and not have to modify my view one bit too.

There are people new to the forum~

yeah, but they've heard these rehashed arguments since 2009!!! 2009!!!!

[The Gambler1981]

yeah, cause you think you're right and everyone else is wrong. of course you'd think that.


well, my arguments are as rehashed as your's are. that means my arguments are just as great because I'm able to keep the same argument for this long and not have to modify my view one bit too.



yeah, but they've heard these rehashed arguments since 2009!!! 2009!!!!

No your argument changes every time Manny team says something different; we will do any drug testing, OST are garbage 21 days is good, no 18 days is good because I had blood drawn 18 days before this other fight, man 14 days is bull****, 14 days is what I want!, 7 days should be good even though no one has ever really made that offer.

Way to be consistent~

[Pullcounter]

All I have to say is look at my history and look at yours.

I don't bother to look at your history. i dont' give a ***** about it.

Look at the respect I get when I talk about the sport and look at the respect you get~

what respect do you have???? we've been dragging this ****** argument for 50 some pages now!!! we've been rehashing the same of ****** arguments since 2009!!!! what respect do you have!!!!

Look at the respect I give the sport and the fighters involved and look at the respect you give.

I love the sport of boxing. if I could have my way, no one could talk ***** about any boxer without some kind of consequence. I have begged the mods to create a forum where all pac and wifebeater threads in nonstop boxing would be dumped. I hate the fact that every ****in day we rehash the same ****in arguments!

but you have to understand, I exist becuase you *****s like you. the more *****s push, the more I push back.

It speaks for itself~

yeah.. the fact that you would rehash the same ****in argument for 50 some pages says alot for you....

[The Gambler1981]

I don't bother to look at your history. i dont' give a ***** about it.


what respect do you have???? we've been dragging this ****** argument for 50 some pages now!!! we've been rehashing the same of ****** arguments since 2009!!!! what respect do you have!!!!


I love the sport of boxing. if I could have my way, no one could talk ***** about any boxer without some kind of consequence. I have begged the mods to create a forum where all pac and wifebeater threads in nonstop boxing would be dumped. I hate the fact that every ****in day we rehash the same ****in arguments!

but you have to understand, I exist becuase you *****s like you. the more *****s push, the more I push back.


yeah.. the fact that you would rehash the same ****in argument for 50 some pages says alot for you....

Could have fooled me and probably everyone here~

[The Gambler1981]

Floyd really doesn't have any part to play with this anymore. Sure he started it but Manny can end it anytime he wants and he doesn't need Floyd to do it. If Floyd vanished tomorrow this problem still exists or if Floyd relents and says I don't care I don't need drug testing to make this fight happen the question marks are still there.

Only one person is responsible for this mess and only one person is capable of cleaning it up~

[Pullcounter]

That has nothing to do with the matter at hand, if someone slanders you, you should want to clear your name not make the situation look worse.

it has absolutely everything to do with the matter at hand! if you want somebody to agree to do something, you don't ****in slander them...

Any I repeat ANY advantage gained through PED is to much it doesn't matter if it only allowed him to throw one extra punch in the fight, that is one punch that he would not have been able to throw through his own hard work. Quit saying cheating is alright just because you don't understand it.

again i repeat:

what PEDs can pac or trollweather take within 7 days of the fight that will (1) be undetectable to urine testing (2) be undetectable to blood testing immediately following the fight (3) be effective given the last week of the fight, training camp winds down to light sparring, running, and fight promotion?

[The Gambler1981]

it has absolutely everything to do with the matter at hand! if you want somebody to agree to do something, you don't ****in slander them...



again i repeat:

what PEDs can pac or trollweather take within 7 days of the fight that will (1) be undetectable to urine testing (2) be undetectable to blood testing immediately following the fight (3) be effective given the last week of the fight, training camp winds down to light sparring, running, and fight promotion?

There are many ways to get people to do things, shaming them is one~

Any I repeat ANY advantage gained through PED is to much it doesn't matter if it only allowed him to throw one extra punch in the fight, that is one punch that he would not have been able to throw through his own hard work. Quit saying cheating is alright just because you don't understand it.