Muhammad Ali Vs Samuel Peter

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  • W1LL
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    #101
    Ali 120-108, Peter would land less than Canelo did.

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      #102
      Who Nest?!?!!

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      • Elroy1
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        #103
        Originally posted by young_robbed
        I liked your posts in the other thread about Estrada, but you're coming off as a complete idiot right now. The slandering of Joe Frazier has got to stop. at the end of the day the guy only lost to Foreman and Frazier his whole career. Frazier was an absolute beast and he was a much better more skilled inside fighter than Peter ever was.
        No Robbed, he was not a better boxer than Peter..

        Frazier was obviously FASTER than Peter because Frazier was 30lbs LIGHTER than Peter. He obviously had better ring stamina too for the very same reason.

        Obviously Peter's qualities MORE than compensate, such as chin, power, strength, resistance, that's the way it works.

        What about skills? Stylistically Peter and Frazier are very much comparable. Both employ a bob and weave tactic, both are march forward maulers who keep the pressure up. And they are both shorties.

        However Peter can be seen to have the tighter defence of the 2. He is more guarded, displays much more respect for his opponents fire and does not wing shots in without any thought of defence like Frazier did..

        Why? Because he had too. In Peter's day, the opponents hit really hard. Good chin or not, if you took too many hard shots it was lights out.

        In Frazier's day, nobody really hit that hard in general, you could afford to be a punching bag because you were still likely to survive. And it shows that Frazier seemed to have ducked/not fought many of the harder punching fighters of his time like Sonny Liston, Mac Foster, Earnie Shavers, Ken Norton and Cleveland Williams. And the only time he did fight what today we would describe as a hard puncher (George Foreman) he was brutally and decisively annihilated!

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        • kardsufur
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          #104
          Peter would outbox Ali to a 15 round UD.

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          • Suckmedry
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            #105
            Originally posted by Elroy1
            No Robbed, he was not a better boxer than Peter..

            Frazier was obviously FASTER than Peter because Frazier was 30lbs LIGHTER than Peter. He obviously had better ring stamina too for the very same reason.

            Obviously Peter's qualities MORE than compensate, such as chin, power, strength, resistance, that's the way it works.

            What about skills? Stylistically Peter and Frazier are very much comparable. Both employ a bob and weave tactic, both are march forward maulers who keep the pressure up. And they are both shorties.

            However Peter can be seen to have the tighter defence of the 2. He is more guarded, displays much more respect for his opponents fire and does not wing shots in without any thought of defence like Frazier did..

            Why? Because he had too. In Peter's day, the opponents hit really hard. Good chin or not, if you took too many hard shots it was lights out.

            In Frazier's day, nobody really hit that hard in general, you could afford to be a punching bag because you were still likely to survive. And it shows that Frazier seemed to have ducked/not fought many of the harder punching fighters of his time like Sonny Liston, Mac Foster, Earnie Shavers, Ken Norton and Cleveland Williams. And the only time he did fight what today we would describe as a hard puncher (George Foreman) he was brutally and decisively annihilated!
            You look like more of a joke with every post. Peter having a better bob and weave than Frazier. you contribute nothing to this forum but your idiocy. Again I call for someone to ban this moron.

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            • Elroy1
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              #106
              Originally posted by One more round
              You look like more of a joke with every post. Peter having a better bob and weave than Frazier. you contribute nothing to this forum but your idiocy. Again I call for someone to ban this moron.
              I said he employed similar tactic which he did.

              When I make claim that Frazier threw without recourse to defence it's there to see. 1 of the more famous photos is where joe is missing wildly with a hook and his hands are nowhere they should be.This is TYPICAL of frazier but not of peter!

              It's all there... You just have to pull your ignorant head out your ass and actually LOOK at it!!

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              • Elroy1
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                #107
                Besides kardsufur is your alt.

                I know

                Your busted kid!

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                • Jc8804
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                  #108
                  Ali has too much character and style.
                  Sam was a 12 round fighter with bad stamina past 8.
                  Ali is 15 round guy .
                  Easy call here

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                  • Suckmedry
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Elroy1
                    I said he employed similar tactic which he did.

                    When I make claim that Frazier threw without recourse to defence it's there to see. 1 of the more famous photos is where joe is missing wildly with a hook and his hands are nowhere they should be.This is TYPICAL of frazier but not of peter!

                    It's all there... You just have to pull your ignorant head out your ass and actually LOOK at it!!
                    at you calling anyone else ignorant.

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                    • Elroy1
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Jc8804
                      Ali has too much character and style.
                      Sam was a 12 round fighter with bad stamina past 8.
                      Ali is 15 round guy .
                      Easy call here
                      So that's your basis, Ali has more character and he sometimes had to fight 15 rounds?

                      I would be more asking, is it even possible for Ali to SURVIVE 8 rounds?

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