Arum: Pac-Marquez will Happen if he’s no longer associated with Golden Boy

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  • kadyo's
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    #71
    Originally posted by Espada
    Absolutely, all options are open. I mean, Mosley economically made more sense but if Pacquiao defeats Mosley, Marquez is a wonderful opponent," said Arum. Especially if he’s no longer associated with Golden Boy, from Top Rank’s perspective. GBP now turns its attention to making a fight between Morales and Marcos Maidana, a true, bona fide junior welterweight in his physical prime, who can punch with both hands. This match-up has many concerned about Morales’ well-being.

    http://www.maxboxing.com/news/main-l...z-still-golden
    Slick manipulator Bob Arum at his best. LOLZ

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    • IMDAZED
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      #72
      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
      I have no real issue with PPV, that is giving the customer a choice. I would like to see a promoter take a risk buy TV time and sell commercials themselves but hey whatever that is pretty risky~

      I definitely don't like the idea of Arum cornering the market though i have seen that story before.
      I don't support independent PPV's if it's used because the promoter wants to spoon feed their fighters. Hell to the no. Quite frankly, I don't support any PPV but maybe that's because I grew up in an era when PPV's occured ONCE a year.

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      • shade darkar
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        #73
        this is the sort of **** that is bad for boxing. promoters need to learn how to deal with other promoters without throwing a hissy fit.

        top rank and other promoters should be more concerned with putting the best possible fights together regardless of the promoters they need to deal with.

        get a grip you money grabbing skanks

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          #74
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Yeah, I get it. More PPV's are ok because that way you can charge people more money for bull**** because the networks don't want to buy that particular bull****. And you support it. Ok.


          these are fights that they weren't gonna show on showtime and hbo anyway.

          and no i don't support it because i pick and choose which independent ppv's i buy. i rarely buy them.

          just don't buy it , if you don't like it. simple.

          i don't see the problem.

          if it's good and you like it , buy it.

          if you don't , don't.

          simple.

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            #75
            Originally posted by ThePrince
            It's not a good thing for the competition, that's for sure. But look at the UFC, which is what Arum AND Oscar are trying to emulate- they produce many PPVs per year and make a killing because White has had more or less a monopoly on the MMA market, maybe barring the HW division. He absorbed all the talent from PRIDE and other organizations and made a partner out of ****E the way Arum hopes to with CBS.

            I've been saying this for a while now but I firmly believe a strong central leadership structure would go a very long way towards fixing the ills of Boxing. Instead of 233 different ABC belts and organization, go back to the days of one. Instead of every state having different commissions and different rules, have one central commission with one commissioner like every other sport. And if that same principle applies to promotions, then HBO's booking agents better dust off their resumes and turn them into Uncle Bob for the good of the sport.
            A lack of competition isn't a good thing for the consumer. This is Business 101.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Left Hook Tua


              these are fights that they weren't gonna show on showtime and hbo anyway.

              and no i don't support it because i pick and choose which independent ppv's i buy. i rarely buy them.

              just don't buy it , if you don't like it. simple.

              i don't see the problem.

              if it's good and you like it , buy it.

              if you don't , don't.

              simple.
              Yeah, they weren't on the networks because the network offered a better fight. And the promoter doesn't want that. He wants you to charge you extra for a real ****ty one. Let that soak in.

              Simple.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Left Hook Tua


                these are fights that they weren't gonna show on showtime and hbo anyway.

                and no i don't support it because i pick and choose which independent ppv's i buy. i rarely buy them.

                just don't buy it , if you don't like it. simple.

                i don't see the problem.

                if it's good and you like it , buy it.

                if you don't , don't.

                simple.
                You beginning to sound like manny pacquiao talking to ariza.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  A lack of competition isn't a good thing for the consumer. This is Business 101.
                  Ok... so how would the consumer, aka we the fans, be hurt by Pacquiao-Marquez III or Cotto-Cintron or Chavez-Alvarez, etc and so on? Furthermore, who is hurt by Boxing returning to mainstream, free TV like you are so nostalgic for?

                  The only 'victim' here is the promoter caught slipping who can't hang on to his fighter.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    Yeah, they weren't on the networks because the network offered a better fight. And the promoter doesn't want that. He wants you to charge you extra for a real ****ty one. Let that soak in.

                    Simple.
                    like i said , most of these independent ppv's don't make the promoter much money , if at all.

                    hence , the promoters would still take most of the offers from showtime and hbo.

                    you automatically assume these independent ppv's prevent network fights from being made. it doesn't.

                    aside from big names like pac or mayweather or even guys on cotto's level , ppv's don't make the promoters much money.

                    the money is still with hbo and showtime. these independent ppv's can't compete with them financially.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      I don't support independent PPV's if it's used because the promoter wants to spoon feed their fighters. Hell to the no. Quite frankly, I don't support any PPV but maybe that's because I grew up in an era when PPV's occured ONCE a year.
                      That is why I don't mind PPV, I can watch it if I want or not if I find it unappealing. Also it means these unappealing fights are not effecting budgets or dates for other networks so they can show more appealing stuff.

                      Things should be priced accordingly though, very few PPV fights are worth the full price I agree.
                      Last edited by The Gambler1981; 02-09-2011, 08:37 PM.

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