Arum: Pac-Marquez will Happen if he’s no longer associated with Golden Boy

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Ok... so how would the consumer, aka we the fans, be hurt by Pacquiao-Marquez III or Cotto-Cintron or Chavez-Alvarez, etc and so on? Furthermore, who is hurt by Boxing returning to mainstream, free TV like you are so nostalgic for?

The only 'victim' here is the promoter caught slipping who can't hang on to his fighter.

If you don't know how one promoter monopolizing the market isn't a good thing, I can't help you, TP.

[Shadow boxer 3]

i thought arum said that JMM had to prove himself at 147 before he got a pac fight. now he says all JMM has to do is leave GBP

[puga]

bob gives fighters what they want....**** the golden girls.....listen to bobby jmm....

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like i said , most of these independent ppv's don't make the promoter much money , if at all.

hence , the promoters would still take most of the offers from showtime and hbo.

you automatically assume these independent ppv's prevent network fights from being made. it doesn't.

aside from big names like pac or mayweather or even guys on cotto's level , ppv's don't make the promoters much money.

the money is still with hbo and showtime. these independent ppv's can't compete with them financially.

No, actually that's not true. They go independent because of the unshared revenue, which generates a lot more for them. And they pick a cheap venue, cheap everything...voila. But that's not the point. The point is, MORE PPV's AREN'T THE ANSWER.

[ThePrince]

If you don't know how one promoter monopolizing the market isn't a good thing, I can't help you, TP.

Yes you can help me, actually. You're convinced that doing away with bickering over revenue splits and personal beefs that have and will/would continue to kill fights and replacing that with the matchups that fans are clamoring for and Boxing making a comeback on mainstream, free TV is somehow a bad thing.

So please... do tell.

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Yes you can help me, actually. You're convinced that doing away with bickering over revenue splits and personal beefs that have and will/would continue to kill fights and replacing that with the matchups that fans are clamoring for and Boxing making a comeback on mainstream, free TV is somehow a bad thing.

So please... do tell.

The answer isn't giving one promoter full control. Use your head and stop being a fourth grader. Bob Arum is just as bad as Don King, check his history. Not that you have to because he's a promoter . And you think everything will become hunky dory because everyone else gets pushed out? Really? Why? Because he's Mother Theresa? Grow up.

[Left Hook Tua]

No, actually that's not true. They go independent because of the unshared revenue, which generates a lot more for them. And they pick a cheap venue, cheap everything...voila. But that's not the point. The point is, MORE PPV's AREN'T THE ANSWER.

ppv might be more money for some fighters but not the majority.

you think arum makes a ton of money off of his latin fury and pinoy power cards?

there's a reason why for the big fights , guys like nonito and lopez still go to showtime/hbo.



and no more ppv's aren't the answer. i said those small independent ppv's have their place and there's a reason for them.

but if it's the only way for you to win an argument , go ahead. pretend i said i want more ppv's. i'm done.

[ThePrince]

I don't even understand the logic here.

More PPVs good? Because fighters need tuneups? Well my God, what were they ever doing before?

And Arum cornering the market is a good thing? We have some Top Rank cheerleaders on here or something.

Except De La Hoya said he wanted the same exact thing... but it's evil Bob that's trying to destroy boxing right?

“We need to sign all the talent and get all the TV dates,” said Oscar in an insightful interview with broadcastingcable.com. “Then you can have your own agenda and have a schedule for the fans and the sport. You can do a monthly PPV, a bi-weekly HBO fight, you can have the best fighters fight each other.

Replace HBO with CBS/Showtime and you basically have a young Arum talking here.

And what Oscar's saying isn't a bad thing either, especially since he agrees on the one commission/one commissioner idea... just that he's not as smart or cunning as Bob is, so he was preempted.

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ppv might be more money for some fighters but not the majority.

you think arum makes a ton of money off of his latin fury and pinoy power cards?

1. I'm not referring to more money for "some fighters." I'm referring to more money for the promoter.

2. Yes, he makes damn good money from those shows, you kidding?

there's a reason why for the big fights , guys like nonito and lopez still go to showtime/hbo.

Yeah, it's called exposure. But again, I'm not referring to fighters, I'm referring to the promoter.

and no more ppv's aren't the answer. i said those small independent ppv's have their place and there's a reason for them.

Those small PPV's are still PPV's. Charging me extra for a ****ty fight is NEVER the answer.

but if it's the only way for you to win an argument , go ahead. pretend i said i want more ppv's. i'm done

I sincerely hope so.

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Except De La Hoya said he wanted the same exact thing... but it's evil Bob that's trying to destroy boxing right?

“We need to sign all the talent and get all the TV dates,” said Oscar in an insightful interview with broadcastingcable.com. “Then you can have your own agenda and have a schedule for the fans and the sport. You can do a monthly PPV, a bi-weekly HBO fight, you can have the best fighters fight each other.

Replace HBO with CBS/Showtime and you basically have a young Arum talking here.

And what Oscar's saying isn't a bad thing either, especially since he agrees on the one commission/one commissioner idea... just that he's not as smart or cunning as Bob is, so he was preempted.

You're right, Oscar did. And thank God it didn't happen.