what was edwin valero chances at 140?

[PandaKilla]

As for the Manny sparring, Bernavidz anf Khan best Pac. Wait a minute, Pac tends to let people do things so he learns or practices things.

Heck pac got beat by some of his sparring partners, doesn't mean shiet in a real prize fight until you prove it.

Seco dly I have been trying to find info on this sparring but never find real evidence. Anyone got more info on it?
Again, Valero could have been knocked out himself vs a powerful guy at 140. You do not know.

[boxer2k5]

No it doesn't, so I guess the forum has a new FF champion based on all of his power we can speculate would put to sleep any world class 140 or hell why not 147lber just like the 24 of 27 club fighters he stopped yet couldn't wobble DeMarco with flush shot after shot

so because he didnt wobble or drop one guy his power is underrated yet he has all stoppages? wtf? you do know some people are not going down no matter what. dont mean you have no power. tyson went distance with bone smith is tyson power underrated?

[PandaKilla]

Nigel Benn would have been ATG if he kept facing bums. Roy would have been ATG Number 1 if he didn't face glen and tarver.

Your speed, power, chin doesn't get exposed when you face the clinton woods of the world.

Just sayin'

[PandaKilla]

so because he didnt wobble or drop one guy his power is underrated yet he has all stoppages? wtf? you do know some people are not going down no matter what. dont mean you have no power. tyson went distance with bone smith is tyson power underrated?

Stop reaching, all of you guys usig sparring are jokes.

Might as well go amatuer days as well.

Again, Roy looked like superman a lot of times vs bums, but he had his moments too. Then ****!

Heck even look at Alexander, he looked like a best pre Kotelnik.

So, so many fughters look better than they really are until they step up.

[Spray_resistant]

so because he didnt wobble or drop one guy his power is underrated yet he has all stoppages? wtf? you do know some people are not going down no matter what. dont mean you have no power. tyson went distance with bone smith is tyson power underrated?

It suggests his power was more a product of opposition when one of the very few good fighters he faced can take his punches and if a LW contender who himself never proved he was a top guy at 135 can take his shots well then I am inclined to think proven would class guys in the next weight class up would handle them even better.

[PandaKilla]

If the 140 guys were to be shrunk p4p, they all beat Anyone on Valero's resume hands down.
Valero and what he can do is speculation.

I'll give you facts here:

Khan fought Kotelnik who had a close fight with alexander and maidana. He beat barerra and paulie.

Maidana fought ortiz who really beat petrson. Maidana alsi beat corley.

Kotelnik got robbed vs witter and alexander.

Bradley beat alexander, wotter, cherry, holt and vasquez.

Alexander beat witter and urango.

Urango and paulie lost to hatton. Hatton beat kosta tzyu. Kosta beat a lot of people like judah etc...

There'sat least some connection to the opponents but it's all triangle theories and shiet as well. You see, you may be 21 and pass exams desinged for 12 year olds, but it doesn't mean you're clever unil yu take the tests designed for your age group.

[PandaKilla]

I beLieve i killed this thread.

[Phil Ivey]

People really think Maidana would stand a chance? He got dropped by a bodyshot by AMIR "Pillow Punches" KHAN!

Valero would make Maidana his b*tch.

Obvious that you've never participated in any form of combat sport before, first of all Amir has decent power, second of all he got his by a monsters BODY shot and got up before the count, third of all comments like "Valero would make Maidana his b*tch" would only come a 15 yr old keyboard warrior. This guy is not walking through anybody against the top 140ers, I would've liked JMM against Valero and witness the bandwagon break apart. He's so overrated its not funny, sure he had power but look at his resume. BUT OH NOEZzzz HE WouLD KO EvERyONE AT 140 EAZILYZZ - shut up idiots.

[Phil Ivey]

There are tapes of him beating the **** out of guys.


Top pros.

And that's not rumor.

Who are these 'top pros'? Regardless, it's SPARRING, fact remains he hasn't beat any real decent opponent. Heaps of top boxers have gotten the **** kicked out of them in sparring, but its a whole new story in the ring. People are claiming that he would walk through the current 140 division, that's laughable.

[Phil Ivey]

Here is a question for. Show me proof of this very good chin that Maidana possess because if you saw the victor ortiz fight that you would know that maidana has an average chin. He got dropped 3 times before ortiz quit like *****.

Those were flash knock downs.. he was never shaken, unlike Ortiz.