It's weird because an 18-year-old Joe Calzaghe won an ABA title at welterweight and an 18-year-old Ricky Hatton won an ABA title at welterweight. A few years after turning pro, Calzaghe had a fight as a cruiserweight and Hatton had a fight as a lightweight.
Is this a ****ty resume?
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Originally posted by MoonEnough said, let's move on.
You had Graham, Watson, Douglas, Benn and Eubank FFS. Douglas was probably the best prospect of the lot until Benn beat him, people thought he'd be an all-time great and that it was a full gone conclusion.. until Benn beat him.Comment
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Those dirty irish white boys Sam storey and Close ******, they were RUBBISH, collins wasnt much better, they tried stealing Banks world title away by just workrate, aggression, dirty irish tactics and outworking and outhussling and **** like that but man the gulf in skill factor was ****in huge,,! Banks was like Apollo Creed +10 while those irish guys were like Rocky Balboa -10. Oh and that male model guy Stretch may of been a little better than storey and close but not very good at all really compared to Banks n e way,Comment
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Originally posted by Pugilistic_PolarbearAll I will say is that its a damn sight better than the resumes of Calzaghe and Hopkins. Malinga and Thornton were at their best in 92,although they went the distance with Eubank whereas Roy Jones stopped them yrs later. Id say Roy Jones was better than Eubank,but only Roy Jones. Lindell Holmes for example was better than Charles Brewer,much better. And we all know that the "big three" were Benn,Eubank,Watson and Eubank boasts a record of 3-0-1 from the big three. I dont even think you should mention William Joppy or Howard Eastman in the same breath as Benn,Eubank,Watson they were not in that class,I mean Eastman has said that his idols were Benn,Eubank,Watson and has said that he wouldnt put himself in that bracket.
Watching Eubanks awesome powerful counterpunch on John Jarvis,the win over the German in Germany,and that memorable firstclass display against Wharton at the G-Mex and you forget what a fantastic fighter he was.For all his pompous flaws,and yes he was frustrating at times,but at other times he was wonderful to watch. I remember when he was coming through the ranks,the rise of Eubanks was shown on an ITV special before his fight with Dos Santos and featured from his firstround knockout of Darren Parker in front a crowd of 83 people right upto his win over Milo in front of a soldout screaming Brighton crowd,his points wins over durable journeymen Franki Moro and Randy Smith were poetry in motion,and then his six straight knockouts were bombastic and earned him a shot at the WBC international title,then a title shot at Benn was his reward for 19 wins with 14 stoppages inside of 2 and a half yrs. And we all know about Mr Eubanks particular bravado lol.
Calzaghe yes, Hopkins no way bernard has actually beaten some top teir fighters like,Trinidad,DLH,Joppy at the time was concidered a good fighter, just to name a few. But on the same token I can't stand Hopkins.Comment
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I remember Eubank was set to fight Victor Cordoba in France for the WBA title, that was until the public demanded that he rematched Watson and so Eubank pulled out of the Corboda fight at the last minute to give Watson the rematch that every body thought he deserved .. the strange thing is that the Eubank vs. Watson II fight wasn't going to be for any title at all until Tommy Hearns vacated his title and Jose Torres ( friend of Chris from Chris' youth in america ) put that title on the line for that fight .. I think Hearns did that so that McClellan could fight for Eubank's vacated title, but Eubank was struggling to make 160 so badly he was going to move up anyway and the Watson rematch would of been at 168 or 175 anyway and for no title .. even though at the time I wished that Eubank vs. Watson II would happen I now wish that it didnt ofcourse .. if only Eubank had fought Corboda instead because he would of defended that title against a drugged up Nunn and then would of stopped all of his opponents because he'd still have his finishing instinct, he really could of been fighter of the decade ..Comment
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Originally posted by JUYJUYAnthony Logan (WBC Continental Americas Champion, battered Nigel Benn), Hugo Corti (WBC International Champion), Nigel Benn (WBO World Champion, WBC World Champion), Gary Stretch (British Champion, "better than Calzaghe" says the man who fought them both), Michael Watson (Commonwealth Champion), Thulane Malinga (WBC World Champion), Ronnie Essett (NABF Champion), Tony Thornton (USBA Champion), Lindell Holmes (IBF World Champion), Graciano Rocchigiani (IBF World Champion, WBC World Champion), Henry Wharton (British/Commonwealth/European Champion)
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Originally posted by TheEvilSaintaside from nigel benn, yes. that is a ****ty resume.
Watson was a future alltimer according to many experts such as Emanuel Steward(after Michael beat Kronks best prospect Don Lee to climb into the top ten rankings,Emanuel offered him the chance to train at the Kronk and be a legend),Watson was a fine couterpuncher and so very smooth with a smart defence,its only because he completely changed his boxing style in the second fight with Eubank that he got caught with Eubanks powerful volleys on that terrible,tragic night.Comment
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Originally posted by Pugilistic_PolarbearSince when have Michael Watson,Lindell Holmes and Rocky been ****ty fighters? Lindell and Rocky had been IBF supermiddle champs and were Emanuel Stewards boys. And Michael Watson is the best fighter on that list so Im not sure why you say "aside from nigel benn"? Benn even gave Watson his WBO world title belt to keep (because Benn may of felt that Watson deserved it even more than he did?).
Watson was a future alltimer according to many experts such as Emanuel Steward(after Michael beat Kronks best prospect Don Lee to climb into the top ten rankings,Emanuel offered him the chance to train at the Kronk and be a legend),Watson was a fine couterpuncher and so very smooth with a smart defence,its only because he completely changed his boxing style in the second fight with Eubank that he got caught with Eubanks powerful volleys on that terrible,tragic night.
the fact that they are former titlists, doesnt mean ****. tony tucker, tony tubbs, tim witherspoon, and pinklon thomas are all former HW champions. are they any good? no, they all suck. the same goes for these former title holders.Last edited by TheEvilSaint; 09-03-2005, 09:04 PM.Comment
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Originally posted by TheEvilSaintholmes has 8 losses and hasnt beaten anybody worth naming, watson beat benn then lost to mccallum twice and eubank twice so he was a one hit wonder, and rocky lost to every quality opponent he faced.
the fact that they are former titlists, doesnt mean ****. tony tucker, tony tubbs, tim witherspoon, and pinklon thomas are all former HW champions. are they any good? no, they all suck. the same goes for these former title holders.
You say that Michael lost twice to McCallum,I say that your a liar. Michael lost once to McCallum,I dont remember a rematch ever happening. Be honest,have you ever seen Michael Watson fight? He had alot going for him,clear talent,and was dominating the second half of the first Eubank fight and dominating the second fight with Eubank before that fateful uppercut.
As for Tucker,Tubbs,Witherspoon and Thomas all sucking,what planet are you on? You have alot of hate,those names you mention were very good fighters.Comment
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Originally posted by Pugilistic_PolarbearLindell Holmes had five losses at the time of fighting Eubank,but they had come early in his career to quality fighters like Herol Graham and Ayub Kalule. Lindell was showing great form in the 1990s,but you wouldnt know that because you've never even seen him fight. He was making Van Horn look bad before the premature stoppage,I had him winning 7 rounds at that point,he was in great form going into the Eubank fight. You'd have to be blind to say that he was ****ty,he clearly had alot going for him and was class.
You say that Michael lost twice to McCallum,I say that your a liar. Michael lost once to McCallum,I dont remember a rematch ever happening. Be honest,have you ever seen Michael Watson fight? He had alot going for him,clear talent,and was dominating the second half of the first Eubank fight and dominating the second fight with Eubank before that fateful uppercut.
As for Tucker,Tubbs,Witherspoon and Thomas all sucking,what planet are you on? You have alot of hate,those names you mention were very good fighters.
yes, watson only lost to mccallum once.Comment
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