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  • dan-b
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    #51
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    If Roy had fought Juan Carlos Gomez (at 198lbs) for a vacant title...now that would be a better comparison.
    I hope you're writing this stuff down. We all quake at your literary might.

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      #52
      Originally posted by DrewWoodside
      It's the same as Roy becoming HW. He won it, but does not have intentions of fighting there.
      The difference is Jones moved up two divisions with no catchweight giving up about 40 pounds. Pacquiao fought with a 150 pound catchweight which is only 3 pounds over the welterweight limit. Ridiculous comparison.

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        #53
        Originally posted by infamous larryx
        why call out a fighter who doesnt wanna fight???floyd loves money..not boxing..he'll return only when he needs more money...
        And I admit Pac enjoys his money too, but lately the criticism and demands are reaching new levels.. Perhaps Pacquiao is finally getting to true super stardom status.

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          #54
          Originally posted by DrewWoodside
          It's the same as Roy becoming HW. He won it, but does not have intentions of fighting there.
          Pacquiao didn't defend his 135 or 140 belt either and didn't give JMM rematch for the 130

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            #55
            Originally posted by The Evil 1-2
            Don't you dare even compare Roy's HW accomplishment to Pac's recent "JMW" one. Are you serious? Roy didn't ask for a catchweight for that bout and fought an actual champ and ranked contender in Ruiz unlike Manny beating Margarito who wasn't even a champ or legit contender at 154 to win the WBC JMW belt.



            Those are facts. It's pathetic how some people try to rewrite history to support their argument.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Phenom
              Pacquiao didn't defend his 135 or 140 belt either and didn't give JMM rematch for the 130
              Okay; so which fighters at 135 and 140 would you have preferred him to fight than the ones he did at 147? You have to be realistic about this also, with things in time order please.

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                #57
                Originally posted by joseph5620

                Those are facts. It's pathetic how some people try to rewrite history to support their argument.
                Ironic remark, when I'm reading people talk about Ruiz as a "real champ".

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                • The Evil 1-2
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by dan-b
                  John Ruiz was not an "actual champ" - he was a mere beltholder. Just like David Diaz and Miguel Cotto. We live in the alphabet era, if you can't discern the real champs from strap wearers then that's your problem.
                  I see what you're saying, but to compare Ruiz to a David Diaz is BS. He's far more credible than him. Just ask Evander. Cotto came out of left field in this discussion and was very much a top dog at welterweight when Pac beat him. Although Ruiz wasn't one of the real champs at HW, which I do admit, Roy's achievement in beating him is far more credible than Pac beating Margarito for the WBC belt. TS brought up the comparison and it rightfully deserves criticism.

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                  • IMDAZED
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by The Evil 1-2
                    I see what you're saying, but to compare Ruiz to a David Diaz is BS. He's far more credible than him. Just ask Evander. Cotto came out of left field in this discussion and was very much a top dog at welterweight when Pac beat him. Although Ruiz wasn't one of the real champs at HW, which I do admit, Roy's achievement in beating him is far more credible than Pac beating Margarito for the WBC belt. TS brought up the comparison and it rightfully deserves criticism.
                    Anybody with common sense can see this. For starters, Ruiz had actually accomplished something at that weight, where as Margarito was 1-1 with is only loss coming to the only top ten fighter he fought at 154 and his only win coming against a journeyman.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      Anybody with common sense can see this. For starters, Ruiz had actually accomplished something at that weight, where as Margarito was 1-1 with is only loss coming to the only top ten fighter he fought at 154 and his only win coming against a journeyman.
                      Tell this to your constituents above who dare to compare Pac's recent "JMW" accomplishment to Roy's HW one. They don't get it.

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