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Comments Thread For: Arum: Pacquiao vs Marquez Will Be at 147 or No Fight
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostThat's what I don't get. After Floyd fought Marquez, I was ragging on him endlessly about taking on a challenge. Specifically, Mosley. When RA the Rugged Man had that interview with Floyd, I sent it to all of my buddies. And there were even threads on here about Floyd being in hiding (sound familiar?) the day he signed to fight Shane lmao. But guess what, folks? He fought him. Most Pac fans just can't look in the mirror and admit to themselves that their savior is flawed.
It's funny that even with Floyd's inactivity ESPN's Dan Rafael still has Floyd number one in the welterweight power rankings.
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Originally posted by Horvo View PostAre some people making the argument that if the limit is 147 JMM will put on more weight than he should? (Even if Pac is going to weigh 148 no matter what) Wow
When Pacquiao used to rehydrate and enter the ring 140+, his body composition on the night wasn't the same as it is now when he takes to the ring 140+.
The difference is that Pacquiao is naturally bigger than Marquez and can function optimally at weights higher than those at which Marquez can. Manny carries eveything up to these weights and Marquez does not. Even 140 still favors Pacquiao.
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostWell that's your opinion, bud. It's worth as much as mine. But since it never occurred to you that Evander was juicing...I'm not so sure lol. But no, he doesn't look legit to me at all. Not standing there with a straight face talking about I need 30 days to heal.
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Originally posted by DigitalBeast View PostYou need to think deeper yourself. My dad was running around quite well, playing soccer, in his early to mid 40s. A life-long smoker, does not go to the gym, or eat too smart. Some people have great genes, and have a strong "pulse". Think about this, please. The more intelligence people have, the more intelligent our conversations/arguments can become. Cheers
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Originally posted by Twako View Postthe proof is out in the open, no one needs to dig deep. in the last 4yrs as a WW, floyd fought only one legit WW in mosley, and it took years of mosley's **** talking and an earthquake in haiti to make the fight. right up to this point, cotto/tony/clottey/mosley were the top welters, all of them wants a piece of floyd, and floyd was thinking of matthew hatton? LOL
Also the OFFER NEVER CAME TO FLOYD TO FIGHT COTTO. You're sadly mistaken.
The only fighter Floyd has ever ducked is Margarito. Other than that, no one else. He's called out Cotto, Mosley, DLH, Hamed, Tszyu, and many other fighters when Floyd was in his prime. When he wasn't a huge star, no one gave him a chance. No one. Now when Mosley is old and looking for a paycheck that's when he calls Mayweather. It wasn't Mayweather, he hasn't been ducking anyone except for Margarito. Cotto never came with an offer. So stop this nonsense.
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A lot more history is riding on this fight than when Mayweather used JMM as a tune-up (which is what everyone who follows boxing knew that fight was beforehand - however much Marquez came to fight and win, he was a tune-up opponent for Floyd).
Pacquiao and Marquez have history, and, if there is to be a third fight between the pair, that history, the integrity of the series, needs to be honored.
Therein lies the rub. Pacquiao's ****-suckers can spin it any way they like, but truth is truth.
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostOk...that's nice. What's your point? That some people have good genes? Tell me something I don't know. Is it possible that Manny has good genes? Sure. As possible as it is that he's juicing.
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Originally posted by DigitalBeast View PostI think it has been publicly stated that he would undergo testing, if the right people asked for it. If he has bad reactions to having his blood taken, then it would mess with his training. Not 2-3 days like I read/heard(I call BS on that), but maybe a few hours to a day. A few testing days, and it adds up. With him having other duties now, that's asking for a lot of the "little guy". Anyways, I'm out...
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