Comments Thread For: Arum: Pacquiao vs Marquez Will Be at 147 or No Fight

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Manny Pacquiao is a coward.....

I updated my list, because AFighter4U reminded me of two more reasons why Manny Pacquiao is a coward.....

1.) Manny Pacquiao is a coward for claiming to be an 8-division champion, and yet being too scared to EVER fight an actual JMW oppenent.

2.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Mayweather back in December, either that or he is a steroid cheat. He didn't want none of Mayweather or the tests, thats for sure.

3.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Sergio Martinez. If JMM can go up two divisions to WW, then surely Manny can defend his JMW title at 154. What a b1tch Manny.

4.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for demanding a catch-weight for Cotto. There are two reasons to demand a catch-weight, either you are not good enough to compete with that fighter at his natural weight, which is fine..... or you are attempting to drain him to gain an unfair advantage, which is cowardly. Team Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, because Manny had already fought at 147.

5.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Shane Mosley - TWICE !!

6.) And Manny "padded" Pacquiao is also a dirty coward for refusing to fight Marquez unless the fight is held at 147.

Manny "padded" Pacquiao is a joke. Top Rank smoke and mirrors.

Team Pacquiao.....
Still piss-scared of Marquez, since 2004

[AFighter4U]

I call it how I see it..... and, you are an idiot.



Hush, you silly kid. Let me explain two things.....

Firstly, you are an idiot for failing to understand the difference between a divisional limit, and the weigh-in just prior to the fight.

The divisional limit, or catch-weight in "padded" Pacquiao's case, determines how much muscle and conditioning that you will carry into the fight.

Fkn hell you idiot, do you really think that a weight difference after 24 hours could be made up of muscle? What a moron. Rehydration weight is almost solely dependant on your water intake, and can be detrimental. It is almost always harder coming down than going up.

Trying to tell me that Margarito is a middleweight was just silly.

Margarito is a large welterweight you clown. Before the Garcia fight, Margarito had only fought above 147 a couple of times during the last 10 years. That is why I called "padded" Pacquiao a coward, not because he is scared to fight Sergio. I never even mentioned Sergio

I called Manny a coward because he claims to be an 8-division champion, and yet he won a vacant title, by beating a slow, plodding, mediocre, welterweight bum who could not even currently compete with the top welterweights. Manny has NEVER fought a JMW opponent, and he has NEVER fought at the divisional limit. That title is an absolute joke.

BTW, I did not address your next two issues earlier because I dismissed you as an idiot and did not read your whole post after realising that you had no idea how the weigh-in determines your fighting condition.

SRL's title is meaningless, but of course he is not a coward, that was a ****** thing to say. He fought a genuine LHW, and a genuine title holder, and also because he is SRL. Whereas "padded" Pacquiao did neither of those things, and he has a string of offenses longer than your arm. He is a repeat offender, with a manufactured resume'.

And, you ***ed up here, but I will let you off the hook, because I am an honest boxing fan, unlike you or Manny. You said.....
" actually twice a coward cuz he not only DEMANDED a catchweight, but CHEATED on an older, smaller guy "

Ya dummy. Why the *** would the larger fighter ask for a catch-weight?

That was to make it seem fair to those who thought they had a clue.

Clearly Marquez was always going to be out-matched, and it was a total fkn b1tch move by Mayweather to buy his way out of that catch-weight. It was insurance, nothing more. Mayweather could most likely have made 144 and beaten Marquez easily, but it took away any chance of an advantage for Marquez, and saved Mayweather from having to make a lower weight than usual after coming off a layoff.

It was a b1tch move, plain and simple.



Let's clear up the ***** thing.....
it was a b1tch-move marketing Marquez as a competitive opponent, let alone Mayweather sliding on the weight. That was actually a double-b1tch move.

But you cannot call that b1tch a coward for fighting a tune-up after a long lay-off. Because he actually went up a division and fought a genuine junior middleweight, and genuine champion - Manny did neither of those things - and also because he immediately fought the #1 WW Mosley, which is something that Manny was also too scared to do - TWICE.

But Mayweather is a b1tch for sliding on the weight, plain and simple.

I don't give a **** about Mayweather. He is on vacation, acting like a clown. I have never even mentioned him. This thread, and all of my posts, have been about Juan Manuel Marquez. This thread is about JMM, get over you hate for Mayweather, he is on vacation.

So, back to the ol' " coward " thing.....

You reminded me of two more reasons why Manny "padded" Pacquiao is a coward, so I will update the list with Mosley and Sergio, and then repost.

Thanks for your help.

Technically, Pac fought a MIDDLEWEIGHT... BASED ON WEIGHT. If he's an ACTUAL MIDDLEWEIGHT or not, i'll leave it to google experts like you.

Of course rehydrating CAN be detrimental to a fighter, with the emphasis on CAN. It IS harder going down than coming up. There's no denying that.

It all depends on how a fighter manages his weight. Properly getting weight and having a weight difference in your favor is usually an advantage to a fighter, depending on how one utilizes it. That's why some fighters win even when fighting at a catchweight going down the weight. Martinez is a good example.

So you're not calling Cotto a genuine title holder?

You're just a hater man. Face it. No way will a coward be excited to face a man 17 lbs BIGGER than him, and WILLINGLY TRADE with him in the ropes.

Sure, Pac was obviously faster, but no matter how fast you are, you WILL GET HIT, common sense. Even Floyd was nearly floored by Mosley who was shot as heck when they fought.

And you are clearly showing bias here. So it was ok for SRL to get a title at catchweight (actually, he got TWO TITLES..... AT CATCHWEIGHT), since according to you, the title(s) meant nothing, so you AREN'T GIVING HIM HEAT FOR IT.

But for Pac to do something similar with a less degree (since it was only ONE TITLE), to get a title WHICH YOU CONSIDER MEANINGLESS, you go out of your way and call him coward?!?

If the title was indeed meaningless, then why put so much MEANING into your rant?

That's double standards plain and simple. You should get a shrink man, or get a new one. I didn't even TRY to get you riled up and loose your cool.

[AFighter4U]

I updated my list, because AFighter4U reminded me of two more reasons why Manny Pacquiao is a coward.....

1.) Manny Pacquiao is a coward for claiming to be an 8-division champion, and yet being too scared to EVER fight an actual JMW oppenent.

2.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Mayweather back in December, either that or he is a steroid cheat. He didn't want none of Mayweather or the tests, thats for sure.

3.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Sergio Martinez. If JMM can go up two divisions to WW, then surely Manny can defend his JMW title at 154. What a b1tch Manny.

4.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for demanding a catch-weight for Cotto. There are two reasons to demand a catch-weight, either you are not good enough to compete with that fighter at his natural weight, which is fine..... or you are attempting to drain him to gain an unfair advantage, which is cowardly. Team Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, because Manny had already fought at 147.

5.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Shane Mosley - TWICE !!

6.) And Manny "padded" Pacquiao is also a dirty coward for refusing to fight Marquez unless the fight is held at 147.

Manny "padded" Pacquiao is a joke. Top Rank smoke and mirrors.

Team Pacquiao.....
Still piss-scared of Marquez, since 2004

Your hate is really getting into your head man.

Has pac signed a deal yet? has Top rank announced who pac's OFFICIALLY FIGHTING?

You do realize how ****** your actions are right? You are ASSUMING PAC is doing certain things, and then calling him a coward for things YOU ASSUME HE IS DOING.

The man is still recovering from his fight with Margarito and you are hating on him for not saying who he'll fight next? What do you think of him, a war freak?

There is something called NEGOTIATIONS and POSTURING and nothing is final until the documents are signed. It takes a certain level of idiocy to criticize someone for something YOU ASSUME HE IS GOING TO DO IN THE FUTURE.

Let me teach you an old saying you might not be familiar with: Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

Criticize Pac AFTER THE DOCUMENTS ARE SIGNED.

For what its worth, i prefer pac facing:

1. Marquez at 140 (to shut the guy up once and for all)
2. Martinez at 154
3. Floyd at 147

in that order.

why floyd for last? of course you save the best for last. and floyd whether i like him or not IS THE BEST OPPOSITION FOR PAC right now. Besides, Floyd is STILL the bigger sell and hopefully, pac would get at least 1.5 million ppvs after one or two fights more.

Of course, if pac faces any of them on weights OTHER THAN THOSE ABOVE, i'd be very VERY disappointed.

And i WON'T PAY TO WATCH MOSLEY/PAC.

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Of course rehydrating CAN be detrimental to a fighter, with the emphasis on CAN. It IS harder going down than coming up. There's no denying that.

It all depends on how a fighter manages his weight. Properly getting weight and having a weight difference in your favor is usually an advantage to a fighter, depending on how one utilizes it. That's why some fighters win even when fighting at a catchweight going down the weight. Martinez is a good example.

That was dribble, and irrelevant.

So you're not calling Cotto a genuine title holder?

I am saying this, and nothing more, so stop trying to put words into my mouth, you dishonest little cvnt.....
When you win a vacant JMW title, by beating a slow, plodding, mediocre, welterweight bum, who could not even currently compete with the top WW's..... and then proclaim that you are an 8-division champion without EVER intending to fight an actual JMW..... then, YOU ARE A COWARD!!

That, in line with the fact that Manny has committed a string of offenses against boxing sensibility, makes him a coward.

You're just a hater man. Face it. No way will a coward be excited to face a man 17 lbs BIGGER than him, and WILLINGLY TRADE with him in the ropes.

You fkn idiot..... Margarito was a shop-worn, slow, plodding, mediocre, welterweight BUM, with no KO power, who could not even currently compete with the top WW's

Sure, Pac was obviously faster, but no matter how fast you are, you WILL GET HIT, common sense. Even Floyd was nearly floored by Mosley who was shot as heck when they fought.

Mosley b1tch-slapped that Margarito bum worse than Manny did, which just confirms that Manny's JMW title is a joke. And the coward knows it.

And you are clearly showing bias here. So it was ok for SRL to get a title at catchweight (actually, he got TWO TITLES..... AT CATCHWEIGHT), since according to you, the title(s) meant nothing, so you AREN'T GIVING HIM HEAT FOR IT.

Catch-weight titles mean nothing to me, absolutely nothing. If they should mean something, then there would be no need for the catch-weight. Catch-weights were first used for exhibition matches, and should not involve title fights.

But for Pac to do something similar with a less degree (since it was only ONE TITLE), to get a title WHICH YOU CONSIDER MEANINGLESS, you go out of your way and call him coward?!?

If the title was indeed meaningless, then why put so much MEANING into your rant?

That's double standards plain and simple. You should get a shrink man, or get a new one. I didn't even TRY to get you riled up and loose your cool.

That was total dribble, you had no point in mind when you posted that rubbish.

I will remind you once more of Manny's string of offenses. It is a joke to see you desperately trying to nit-pick at irrelevant points, just to try to get your guy off the hook. You completely missed the point.....

It is not just the fact that Manny DEMANDED a catch-weight for Cotto, Manny had already fought at welterweight so he simply didn't need one. They intentionally tried to drain Cotto, so that was a cowardly b1tch-more..... yet again.

I will repost my list, and I have explained that point in more detail..... read it again.

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Manny Pacquiao is a coward.....

I updated my list, because AFighter4U reminded me of two more reasons why Manny Pacquiao is a coward.....

1.) Manny Pacquiao is a coward for claiming to be an 8-division champion, and yet being too scared to EVER fight an actual JMW oppenent.

2.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Mayweather back in December, either that or he is a steroid cheat. He didn't want none of Mayweather or the tests, thats for sure.

3.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Sergio Martinez. If JMM can go up two divisions to WW, then surely Manny can defend his JMW title at 154. What a b1tch Manny.

4.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for demanding a catch-weight for Cotto. There are two reasons to demand a catch-weight, either you are not good enough to compete with that fighter at his natural weight, which is fine..... or you are attempting to drain him to gain an unfair advantage, which is cowardly. Team Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, because Manny had already fought at 147.

5.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Shane Mosley - TWICE !!

6.) And Manny "padded" Pacquiao is also a dirty coward for refusing to fight Marquez unless the fight is held at 147.

Manny "padded" Pacquiao is a joke. Top Rank smoke and mirrors.

Team Pacquiao.....
Still piss-scared of Marquez, since 2004

[AFighter4U]

I updated my list, because AFighter4U reminded me of two more reasons why Manny Pacquiao is a coward.....

1.) Manny Pacquiao is a coward for claiming to be an 8-division champion, and yet being too scared to EVER fight an actual JMW oppenent.

2.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Mayweather back in December, either that or he is a steroid cheat. He didn't want none of Mayweather or the tests, thats for sure.

3.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Sergio Martinez. If JMM can go up two divisions to WW, then surely Manny can defend his JMW title at 154. What a b1tch Manny.

4.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for demanding a catch-weight for Cotto. There are two reasons to demand a catch-weight, either you are not good enough to compete with that fighter at his natural weight, which is fine..... or you are attempting to drain him to gain an unfair advantage, which is cowardly. Team Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, because Manny had already fought at 147.

5.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Shane Mosley - TWICE !!

6.) And Manny "padded" Pacquiao is also a dirty coward for refusing to fight Marquez unless the fight is held at 147.

Manny "padded" Pacquiao is a joke. Top Rank smoke and mirrors.

Team Pacquiao.....
Still piss-scared of Marquez, since 2004

And i repeat what i said again:

it is foolish to criticize a man when his course of action has yet to be determined.

Don't you see the idiocy in this? ARUM IS STILL GOING TO THE PHILIPPINES TO DISCUSS PAC'S OPTIONS.

not to sign contracts.

not to agree to the terms.

BUT TO SEE WHO HE WILL EVENTUALLY FIGHT.

How many times do i have to repeat this simple concept which you seemingly cannot or refuse to understand? Are you that dense?

I was one of those people who said Floyd would NEVER FIGHT SHANE.

I was wrong.

Who knows who Pac would decide to fight next?

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it is foolish to criticize a man when his course of action has yet to be determined.

You whiney b1tch.

The list that I have provided is FACT: - past-tense !!

Team Pacquiao have already stated that they will not enter into negotiations unless Marquez fights at 147. Did you not read the headline of the thread that you are posting on?.....
Arum: Pacquiao vs Marquez Will Be at 147 or No Fight.

Stop your fkn whining kid, you are clutching at straws.

And the rest of Manny's cowardly moves are already documented by history.

This is a typically dishonest pac-fan approach. You have continually attempted to nit-pick at irrelevant trivial issues, even resorting to putting words in my mouth. Typically dishonest.

FACT:

1.) Manny Pacquiao is a coward for claiming to be an 8-division champion, and yet being too scared to EVER fight an actual JMW oppenent.

2.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Mayweather back in December, either that or he is a steroid cheat. He didn't want none of Mayweather or the tests, thats for sure.

3.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Sergio Martinez. If JMM can go up two divisions to WW, then surely Manny can defend his JMW title at 154. What a b1tch Manny.

4.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for demanding a catch-weight for Cotto. There are two reasons to demand a catch-weight, either you are not good enough to compete with that fighter at his natural weight, which is fine..... or you are attempting to drain him to gain an unfair advantage, which is cowardly. Team Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, because Manny had already fought at 147.

5.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Shane Mosley - TWICE !!

6.) And Manny "padded" Pacquiao is also a dirty coward for refusing to fight Marquez unless the fight is held at 147.

Manny "padded" Pacquiao is a joke. Top Rank smoke and mirrors.

Team Pacquiao.....
Still piss-scared of Marquez, since 2004