Comments Thread For: Arum: Pacquiao vs Marquez Will Be at 147 or No Fight

[Illdil]

You have NO proof that Floyd ducked Cotto and Margarito.I have proof that he didn't.

floyd didnt wana fight cotto when cotto was one of the champions in WW division and toney was the most avoided man at WW...in a interview they asked jr why he wont fight miguel and he said' cuz he lives in puerto rico' ..and for a margarito fight i think he was offerd 10mil and PPV 's and didnt take the fight ..im not saying jr dont have the skills to fight them its just he didnt fight them at all..

[hitking]

You have NO proof that Floyd ducked Cotto and Margarito.
I have proof that he didn't.

You didn't know. Mayweather ducks everyone until he beats them. Then, when he beats them, its something wrong with them. I have an issue of The Ring magazine sittign in my closet talking about how he ducked Hatton. When he beats Hatton, Hatton was little, overrated blah, blah, blah. I can pull up numerous articles talking about how Mosley punked Money at the JMM postfight interview. Dan "Fatass" Rafael called Money out at the press conference about Mosley. Yet, when Money beats him 8 months later, he was old, washed up, inactive, blah, blah, blah.

[boxingfan76]

And oh another thing what do u mean by he has nothing to prove at 140 and 147?? why?? is he the unified champ at 140 like what the KHAN?Timmy/Alex/maidana trying to do and 147?? yeah he has everything to prove cuz last time he fought over 140 we know what happened..and what is up with that thing u have PAC v ATG thing u created that for what reason again???

jmm has nothing to prove at 140lbs or 147 because he put a beating on pac in 2 fights.he is 37 years old close to retirement and given the history its just absurd. again just because manny beat some washed up biggger fighters doesnt mean a litweight juan can too. on top of that theres no glory or incentive for jmm to go fight heavier dudes because none are pnd for pnd number 1.juan can be 135lbs and manny hevier and it will be a great fight, jmm isnt a spring chicken fighting at 140 or 147 (a)wouldnt make him money, (b)would get him a loss to a nobody, (3)nobody would want to watch it. jmm is in a unique situation, he deserves a manroid fight. jmm is a liteweight! he should stay at litweight and still get a fight against manroid, if thats what he truly wants.styles make fights not weights. just look manroid beat a 165 lb margarito, but wont face a sergio martinez whom on fightnight against williams weighd 166lbs! so is it the weight or the style manroid is avoiding ? its the styke not the weight! sergio is just too good at what he does, just like jmm is thats why they are asking a 37year old future hall of famer to fight at a total disadvantage.

[DigitalBeast]

glass chin yep i said it...this clown gets KD every time he fights
this time around pac will put him to sleep for good..

bet all my points if they ever did a 3rd fight..

So now you're thinking I'd pick Juan over Manny, based only on my observation?

[hitking]

floyd didnt wana fight cotto when cotto was one of the champions in WW division and toney was the most avoided man at WW...in a interview they asked jr why he wont fight miguel and he said' cuz he lives in puerto rico' ..and for a margarito fight i think he was offerd 10mil and PPV 's and didnt take the fight ..im not saying jr dont have the skills to fight them its just he didnt fight them at all..

However, when Cotto was the WBO 140 champ, his promotor cited that he was too green to fight Mayweather when Money wanted that fight. And when Money hit welter, Margarito was rebuilding from a loss t Daniel friggin' Santos and would soon lose to Paul Williams. Yet, Money fought the recognized welterweight champ Baldomir. I know in Pacland, fighting guys coming off loses, rebuilding from loses, and lackluster performances against lesser fighters and avoiding the top fighters in divisions is Earth moving. But, down here on planet Earth, fighting top guys the way to go.

[IMDAZED]

You didn't know. Mayweather ducks everyone until he beats them. Then, when he beats them, its something wrong with them. I have an issue of The Ring magazine sittign in my closet talking about how he ducked Hatton. When he beats Hatton, Hatton was little, overrated blah, blah, blah. I can pull up numerous articles talking about how Mosley punked Money at the JMM postfight interview. Dan "Fatass" Rafael called Money out at the press conference about Mosley. Yet, when Money beats him 8 months later, he was old, washed up, inactive, blah, blah, blah.

That's what I don't get. After Floyd fought Marquez, I was ragging on him endlessly about taking on a challenge. Specifically, Mosley. When RA the Rugged Man had that interview with Floyd, I sent it to all of my buddies. And there were even threads on here about Floyd being in hiding (sound familiar?) the day he signed to fight Shane lmao. But guess what, folks? He fought him. Most Pac fans just can't look in the mirror and admit to themselves that their savior is flawed.

[The Noose]

Ive never commented on Arum and Roach.

But for Arum to say it wouldnt be fair for pac to come down in weight when thats what theyve been doing to their last few opponents is ****ing disgusting. How can he be that moronic? Am i missing something?

Pac came in well under the WW limit against Marg, so why cant they make a deal with JMM for 145lbs?

I hope the fight happens. Pac needs to face a smart boxer, and JMM deserves a final shot.

Great fighters.

[DigitalBeast]

No...you like dealing in black and white don't you? Try thinking a little deeper.

Got a lot on my mind lately, but here it is, basically - Manny doesn't really look like he's on something, because things he does a person of his age and dedication can do. It isn't like he's throwing punches non-stop for the whole 12 rounds. He looks pretty legit to me, considering...

[Illdil]

jmm has nothing to prove at 140lbs or 147 because he put a beating on pac in 2 fights.he is 37 years old close to retirement and given the history its just absurd. again just because manny beat some washed up biggger fighters doesnt mean a litweight juan can too. on top of that theres no glory or incentive for jmm to go fight heavier dudes because none are pnd for pnd number 1.juan can be 135lbs and manny hevier and it will be a great fight, jmm isnt a spring chicken fighting at 140 or 147 (a)wouldnt make him money, (b)would get him a loss to a nobody, (3)nobody would want to watch it. jmm is in a unique situation, he deserves a manroid fight. jmm is a liteweight! he should stay at litweight and still get a fight against manroid, if thats what he truly wants.styles make fights not weights. just look manroid beat a 165 lb margarito, but wont face a sergio martinez whom on fightnight against williams weighd 166lbs! so is it the weight or the style manroid is avoiding ? its the styke not the weight! sergio is just too good at what he does, just like jmm is thats why they are asking a 37year old future hall of famer to fight at a total disadvantage.

Ok if he put a such BEATING on PAC then why beg for another fight???u thought u won the fight then tell the other guy to piss off and thats that ...

[Twako]

You have NO proof that Floyd ducked Cotto and Margarito.
I have proof that he didn't.

the proof is out in the open, no one needs to dig deep. in the last 4yrs as a WW, floyd fought only one legit WW in mosley, and it took years of mosley's **** talking and an earthquake in haiti to make the fight. right up to this point, cotto/tony/clottey/mosley were the top welters, all of them wants a piece of floyd, and floyd was thinking of matthew hatton? LOL