Comments Thread For: Arum: Pacquiao vs Marquez Will Be at 147 or No Fight

[dvb]

pac needs to tell arum how he wants it,not how arum wants pac to have it.

marquez should come up to atleast between light welterweight and welterweight.

pac should be allowed 147 no higher,which he woudlnt,would prob weigh in less or just about 145- 147.

if marquez thinks hes truely better than pac,and wants to prove it,accept the amount offered ,and make the weight and still have the skills to win at a light welter/welterweight.

although if marquez fights like he did vs katsidis,pac will prob knock him down every round!. if pac chooses to fight and sticks to a sturn gameplan,also pac will be just as fast and bigger and stronger than before,and marquez will be a little bit slower and hasnt changed his style like pac has his.

[IMDAZED]

pac needs to tell arum how he wants it,not how arum wants pac to have it.

Some of you will just never get it.

[hitking]

Marquez just have to accept this terms and weigh-in at 140. Pac will probably weigh-in at 143-144. What's the problem?!?

That's the problem sir. Everyone has to bow to Pac's terms. Cotto had to defend his welterweight belt at 145. Margarito had to agree to a 150 catchweight for a 154 belt. JMM has to agree to fight at 147 when Ariza got on this very site and said Pac could make 140 easily. Mayweather ahd to agree to a $10M per pound weight penalty, ring size, glove size, and 50/50 purse split. But, when someone asked Pac to agree to one thing that's outta the box, he and his team have more excuses than a cat going to jail. Is it wrong? Maybe not. Is it distasteful? Absolutely.

[Boxing's Truth]

I used to be a huge Pacquaio fan. And until until very recently, I still liked him although I disliked those who represent him and his newfound legion of fans. That said, I'm no longer letting Pac off the hook. All of those cats you mentioned work for Pac, not visa versa. He has just as much to do with this garbage as the rest of them. He's just not as annoying and knows how to smile in front of a camera, like a typical politician.

The big picture is this. Those clowns want a big money fight. The biggest money fight is right underneath their noses. And yes, it's Floyd. Floyd has been the smart one in all of this by not commenting on anything. Floyd will fight when he's good and ready.

It's the dumbasses like Arum and Roach saying "We want Floyd next, we want Floyd next" knowing that Floyd already told those dumbasses that unless you dirty asses take full OSTs, he's not fighting him.

But Pac and his ******ed ass clan insist on bringing Floyd's name up on a regular bases just to try to make Floyd look bad. Floyd spoke his peace months ago. If they want Floyd so bad just come out and agree to full testing you ***in morons. But they dance around the test issues making it look like they already agreed to the proposed test then say that Floyd is ducking Pac. And *******s believe anything coming out of their princess' camp.

[GRUSTLER]

As long as Team Pacquaio has Mayweather in their hip pocket, they'll never recieve huge amounts of backlash for anything they do. I believe to this day that they're using the USADA testing as a reason to duck Mayweather. But, the images of both fighters combined with Team Pacquaio caring a lot more about PR than Team Mayweather has it looking like its the other way around. I mean seriously, Pac has come out in the past week or so saying he doesn't want to fight JMM again. If they're going through all this to either not fight JMM, or make him come in at a disadvantage in their mind and his, what makes a logical thinking person think these people are chomping at the bit to fight Super JMM (Mayweather?)

Nah, the more they talk the more their revealing
themselves. Mayweather not saying anything is
frustrating them even more because everyone
keeps asking them what's up with the fight. I for
one am not blaming Mayweather because I actually
can think for myself. The real reason the fight didn't
happen is posted below....

Pacquiao and Mayweather had agreed to unlimited random urine testing, but Mayweather also insisted on random blood testing, even though the Nevada State Athletic Commission, which would oversee the bout at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, requires only urine testing.

Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 KOs) didn't want blood testing but later relented and agreed to three blood tests: one during the week of the kickoff news conference, which would have taken place next week, one random test to be conducted no later than 30 days before the fight and a final test in his dressing room after the fight. Mayweather (40-0, 25 KOs) would be subject to the same testing procedures.

When they could not come to an agreement, Top Rank and Golden Boy Promotions, which represents Mayweather, turned to a mediator, retired judge Daniel Weinstein, who had successfully mediated a series of disputes between Top Rank and Golden Boy in 2007.

But after nine hours in mediation on Tuesday in Santa Monica, Calif., and further attempts to come to a resolution on Wednesday failed, the fight was pronounced dead by the Pacquiao camp.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4808708.

[DigitalBeast]

I hear you but Manny didn't even want to fight live opponents
at the weights where he was before. I think after the 2nd
Marquez fight Manny stayed true to his word about not wanting
none with Marquez anymore or anyone else who can technically
box for that matter.

Not sure I agree. May just seem that way. If he wants Mayweather, then it can't be true. He's still pretty live, slick, and a real boxer. Can crack a bit(keeping in mind his hands...), to boot. Say want you will, but Ricky Hatton was still a force, and Manny was moving up. Just don't forget, that not every decision is necessarily on Manny's shoulders...

[borikua]

That's the problem sir. Everyone has to bow to Pac's terms. Cotto had to defend his welterweight belt at 145. Margarito had to agree to a 150 catchweight for a 154 belt. JMM has to agree to fight at 147 when Ariza got on this very site and said Pac could make 140 easily. Mayweather ahd to agree to a $10M per pound weight penalty, ring size, glove size, and 50/50 purse split. But, when someone asked Pac to agree to one thing that's outta the box, he and his team have more excuses than a cat going to jail. Is it wrong? Maybe not. Is it distasteful? Absolutely.

Oscar used to do it when he was on top and Floyd too...So?

[Check_hooks]

Marquez says he dreams of fighting Pacquiao day and night yet he wont fight him at 147 for the same amount of money he fought Mayweather? Go back to fighting bums then for peanuts while Pacquiao makes more in 1 fight than Marquez has made in his entire career.

[Twako]

That's the problem sir. Everyone has to bow to Pac's terms. Cotto had to defend his welterweight belt at 145. Margarito had to agree to a 150 catchweight for a 154 belt. JMM has to agree to fight at 147 when Ariza got on this very site and said Pac could make 140 easily. Mayweather ahd to agree to a $10M per pound weight penalty, ring size, glove size, and 50/50 purse split. But, when someone asked Pac to agree to one thing that's outta the box, he and his team have more excuses than a cat going to jail. Is it wrong? Maybe not. Is it distasteful? Absolutely.

but really, the 147 becomes a no issue. pac never weighed over 144 in his weigh-ins. arum's no saint i agree w/ you, he probably just doesnt to bend over to jmm and concede a contract stipulation limiting manny, even though he knows deep inside and said that manny will come in at 143-44.

oscar didnt want to bend over for floyd, floyd never did also to jmm.

[dirkdigler]

So aurum is saying that it's ****** for manny to go down at a catch weight to fight a smaller man, but its ok for bigger fighters to drain themselves to meet manny at a catch weight?