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  • Ko King 212
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    #121
    Originally posted by Big Dunn
    your point about time off is fair. That said Manny has fought 2x at ww, one of which was at 145. Floyd has fought 7 times at ww, once at 144(146 actually), twice beating the lineal champ, including his last fight. If the resumes were reversed would you make the same argument? I don't think so.
    Hell no he wouldn't.

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      #122
      Floyd will never beat Manny at this point. he is a nice guy but a beast in a boxing ring. FLoyd cannot hurt Manny. FACT

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        #123
        Originally posted by Poochiao
        Mosley lost a close fight to Cotto.

        Mosley murked the guy who destroyed Cotto. Cotto got a gift decision against Clottey.
        Mosley destroyed an under-trained Marg, who was not focussed on the fight because he'd just got caught cheating, and in any case styles make fights, and the fact that he's better than Marg doesn't mean he could beat Pac.

        The Cotto-Clottey fight was close and difficult to score, and could validly have gone either way. It it was certainly not a gift decision, although one of the scorecards was ridiculously wide. And considering that Cotto was blind in one eye for half the fight, he did extremely well.

        There are arguments that Mosley should have been ranked #1 at that time, and there are arguments that Pac should. I don't have a problem with either point of view. But anyone who says that either of those fighters didn't have a strong case to be considered #1 at that time is just being ridiculous. They both did, and which you choose to pick is just your personal opinion.
        Last edited by Dave Rado; 11-17-2010, 03:32 PM.

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          #124
          Originally posted by Dave Rado
          Mosley destroyed an under-trained Marg, who was not focussed on the fight because he'd just got caught cheating, and in any case styles make fights, and the fact that he's better than Marg doesn't mean he could beat Pac.

          The Cotto-Clottey fight was close and difficult to score, and could validly have gone either way. It it was certainly not a gift decision, although one of the scorecards was ridiculously wide. And considering that Cotto was blind in one eye for half the fight, he did extremely well.

          There are arguments that Mosley should have been ranked #1 at that time, and there are arguments that Pac should. I don't have a problem with either point of view. But anyone who says that either of those fighters didn't have a strong case to be considered #1 at that time is just being ridiculous.
          where was cotto ranked at ww when manny fought him?
          where was shane ranked when manny fought cotto?

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            #125
            we all know floyd should be the #1 ww, regardless of what u think of him or what u think of manny. fighting mosely at ww counts for more than fighting clottey at ww and fighting margarito at catchweight 150 combined. margarito isnt even ranked in a weight class and the inactivity excuse makes no sense whatsoever. floyd fought 2x within a 12 month period and so did manny.

            but whatever. u guys wanna start another *******/***** war...have at it. these are the facts tho. all bias aside, ring is making an ass of itself once again.

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            • Dave Rado
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              #126
              Originally posted by cortdawg25
              and plus, cotto won his belt from a vacant title.
              That's a ridiculous argument. Cotto had easily the best Welterweight resume of any Welterweight at that time, including Mosley. Who he fought when he won the belt is completely irrelevant. Alphabet belts are pretty meaningless in any case. Who he fought at Welterweight is the only thing that matters, and he'd fought more top Welterweights by far than any other Welterweight at that time, and prior to the Pac fight, had beaten all but one of them, including beating Mosley.

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                #127
                Originally posted by Dave Rado
                That's a ridiculous argument. Cotto had easily the best Welterweight resume of any Welterweight at that time, including Mosley. Who he fought when he won the belt is completely irrelevant. Alphabet belts are pretty meaningless in any case. Who he fought at Welterweight is the only thing that matters, and he'd fought more top Welterweights by far than any other Welterweight at that time, and prior to the Pac fight, had beaten all but one of them, including Mosley.
                cotto's ww resume is not better than mosely's gtfo with that ****.

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by Dave Rado
                  That's a ridiculous argument. Cotto had easily the best Welterweight resume of any Welterweight at that time, including Mosley. Who he fought when he won the belt is completely irrelevant. Alphabet belts are pretty meaningless in any case. Who he fought at Welterweight is the only thing that matters, and he'd fought more top Welterweights by far than any other Welterweight at that time, and prior to the Pac fight, had beaten all but one of them, including Mosley.
                  mosley and judah thats it you can say floyd fighting baldomir and judah was better than cotto beatin shane and judah at the time

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                  • Dave Rado
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Ko King 212
                    How can manny be number 1 after fighting for a Junior middle weight title. Had he fought berto I would agree.
                    He weighed at 144½, well under the Welterweight limit. Obviously that win, in which he was a Welterweight fighting a Jr Middleweight is going to enhance his standing as a Welterweight.

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by Dave Rado
                      He weighed at 144½, well under the Welterweight limit. Obviously that win, in which he was a Welterweight fighting a Jr Middleweight is going to enhance his standing as a Welterweight.
                      how?don't you think if it was like that more fighters would do the same thing?

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