Pacquiao not only ranked higher P4P than Mayweather, now ranked higher at 147 too....

[The Gambler1981]

he is not asking you to find the greatest he is asking you to find any slick defensive counter punchers Floyd has fought

its a legit question if you are putting Manny to the same question.

That is a good question, Augustus? Corley has a funky style. Zab tries to be slick, JMM is fairly slick although more to do with timing and position than speed and I would say Mosley tries to be slick.

It is a great counter question though because Floyd being the defensive guy who even at the lowest levels was very well backed so he would never be put against such a guy just on the reasoning no one would want to watch that.

Slick guys are also generally kind of scarce be it for whatever reason currently as I would be hard pressed to name slick guys he could have reasonably fought aside from Casamayor.

[Left Hook Tua]

floyd has putting in work and dominating top opposition. True virtuoso performances. Meanwhile, pacquiao is getting knocked around the ring by a washed morales and letting jmm get up after 3 kds and get a draw

pacquiao is a good fighter but he is no floyd mayweather. Floyd has been doing this for years without titlefight catchweights or weight stipulations or any other bs to **** history

you're seriously underrated pacquiao's resume. that's your opinion and you're entitled to it but it doesn't make you come off as being knowledgable.

[Left Hook Tua]

floyd was the best fighter in the world since 2005 and that was before he fought oscar and where was manny ranked at the time?

top 3-5 p4p?

yeah floyd became #1 p4p in 2005. by 2006 pacquiao was #2.

not bad. not bad at all.

[The Gambler1981]

True, but the fact that Pac gave folks more entertainment towards the tail end, and with a better attitude will work in his favor. At this stage, and of course it could flip at any moment. But imo Pacquiao is currently winning the PR war between himself and Mayweather. He's been winning it dating back a few weeks now. Starting with the "racial" U stream rant from Mayweather, it's been mostly downhill for him in the press.

Well he is going to be fine but the whole thing is as people see Floyd now his career has more than one black mark (fair or unfair) so what does this extra big black mark bring him down, I don't know. Boxing is very much what have you done for me lately so he could still attempt turn it around if that is in his head (with or without Manny).

With Manny his career is generally viewed as sterling (fair or unfair) that one black mark would look pretty bad on an otherwise sterling resume. To me that might be worse because that would always be what came up as the negative of his career.

[cortdawg25]

you're seriously underrated pacquiao's resume. That's your opinion and you're entitled to it but it doesn't make you come off as being knowledgable.

has pacquiao ever fought morales after a win?

Did pacquiao fight the man at 135, 147, or 154?

Has pacquiao even fought at 154?

[BUSINESSMAN]

the ring is clearly racist. along with all other media. and of course there're also uncle toms. racism everywhere.

[BoZz]

Pacquaio is a fraud and every true non **** riding fan knows that,he beat margarito but was scared to fight shane mosley..shane mosley stopped margarito and floyd beat shane mosley..floyd is the true P4P ..pacquiao is the true catch weight king who fights damaged weight drained chumps

[War Dinamita]

he is not asking you to find the greatest he is asking you to find any slick defensive counter punchers Floyd has fought

its a legit question if you are putting Manny to the same question.

I want him to list me all these slick defensive counter punchers from Floyd's era that had a chance to beat him.

Yeah, I'll wait...

[Dave Rado]

I know they don't... But, they should. However, is not the first time they have made that mistake.

Jones and Dariusz at LHW, for a long time they didn't recognize a real champ at Flyweight. While the lineage dated back since the 70's with Miguel Canto.

The reason they didn't consider that May-Mosley was for the lineal title was that at that time, they had Pac ranked #1 at Welterweight. You can disagree, but it was a rational decision. I don't see how you can say it's wrong, as opposed to being a matter of opinion. It's not at all comparable with the other issues you mentioned, which were not simply matters of opinion, they were simply wrong. In this case, it's all down to whether Pac deserved to be ranked #1 at that time, and that's just a matter of opinion.

[War Dinamita]

The reason they didn't consider that May-Mosley was for the lineal title was that at that time, they had Pac ranked #1 at Welterweight. You can disagree, but it was a rational decision. I don't see how you can say it's wrong, as opposed to being a matter of opinion. It's not at all comparable with the other issues you mentioned, which were not simply matters of opinion, they were simply wrong. In this case, it's all down to whether Pac deserved to be ranked #1 at that time, and that's just a matter of opinion.

That's bull****.

Mosley was clearly the better WW and had done more in the division to deserve to be the #1 WW at the time. The majority of fans here at the time considered him the 3rd best p4p fighter in the world, super champ, and best WW in the world.