Pacquiao not only ranked higher P4P than Mayweather, now ranked higher at 147 too....

[Dave Rado]

your point about time off is fair. That said Manny has fought 2x at ww, one of which was at 145. Floyd has fought 7 times at ww, once at 144(146 actually), twice beating the lineal champ, including his last fight. If the resumes were reversed would you make the same argument? I don't think so.

If the resumes were reversed, I would certainly make the same argument, if Pac was in semi-retirement and Floyd had just had an impressive performance.

[Dave Rado]

where was cotto ranked at ww when manny fought him?
where was shane ranked when manny fought cotto?

Mosley was narrowly #1 and Cotto was narrowly #2, but there was virtually nothing in it, because Cotto had already beaten Mosley - they were really considered more or less joint #1s at that time, like the Floyd-May situation now. And Pac didn't just beat Cotto, he completely destroyed him. It wasn't the win but the manner of the win that got him The Ring's no. 1 spot.

[cortdawg25]

that's a ridiculous argument. Cotto had easily the best welterweight resume of any welterweight at that time, including mosley. Who he fought when he won the belt is completely irrelevant. Alphabet belts are pretty meaningless in any case. Who he fought at welterweight is the only thing that matters, and he'd fought more top welterweights by far than any other welterweight at that time, and prior to the pac fight, had beaten all but one of them, including beating mosley.

it does matter when you rank pacquiao #1 by beating cotto when he just got beat up by margarito and won a vacant title from michael jennings.

It matters and it is very relative. Prior to margarito, cotto was the guy but when manny faced him he was not the guy and thus shouldn't have been ranked #1. Margarito should have been #1 then mosely should have been #1.

According to your logic, manny should have been number #1 at welter after he beat oscar because oscar once fought all the fighters and had the best resume at welter.

It don't work that way and the ring on the bs ands trying to get us to drink the koolaid.

[r ! z]

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Pullcounter with a 6punch combo right thru the guard

[Kagami Taiga]

Mosley was narrowly #1 and Cotto was narrowly #2, but there was virtually nothing in it, because Cotto had already beaten Mosley - they were really considered more or less joint #1s at that time, like the Floyd-May situation now. And Pac didn't just beat Cotto, he completely destroyed him. It wasn't the win but the manner of the win that got him The Ring's no. 1 spot.

dude...ur making **** up now. mosely was firmly planted on #1. cotto hadnt looked good in a fight in quite some time. it wasnt even like the pac/mayweather thing because both of them were clearly that much better. just because u felt it was that way doesnt mean it was.

[letsgobrady]

Mosley was narrowly #1 and Cotto was narrowly #2, but there was virtually nothing in it, because Cotto had already beaten Mosley - they were really considered more or less joint #1s at that time, like the Floyd-May situation now. And Pac didn't just beat Cotto, he completely destroyed him. It wasn't the win but the manner of the win that got him The Ring's no. 1 spot.

oh yea,i remember everyone lookin at shane as the top ww and as a beast because how he beat down margo, i don't remember anyone sayin shane and cotto were joint #1.what i remember was people callin miguel a shell of himself and people were here complainin that he lost to clottey.what does cotto havin a close fight with shane before losin to margo have to do with shanes status?thats like sayin that if margarito became the #1 jmw paul williams and shane will be joint #1 jmw because they both beat margo

[cortdawg25]

Dave is buggin...i mean, what ever happened to the idea that you have to fight top welters to be ranked at welter!

[Dave Rado]

cotto's ww resume is not better than mosely's gtfo with that ****.

At that time, Mosley had only fought three times at Welterweight since his return to the division, and had lost one of those fights. His only win against a top contender was against Marg. Cotto's had fought and beaten far more top rated Welterweights at that time.

His run eight years ago is completely irrelevant.

[Dave Rado]

Dave is buggin...i mean, what ever happened to the idea that you have to fight top welters to be ranked at welter!

Cotto was ranked #2 at Welterweight when he fought him, and Clottey was ranked #4 at Welterweight when he fought him. Wherever did you get the idea that he hasn't fought any top Welterweights?

[jrosales13]

Dave is buggin...i mean, what ever happened to the idea that you have to fight top welters to be ranked at welter!

Who was ranked at WW, without fighting a top WW?