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  • Alibata
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    #121
    Originally posted by The Evil 1-2
    The main question is do people think that the current procedures that the commissions have in place are adequate enough? I believe that the commissions even admit to a certain extent that more can be done with their testing procedures. If I'm not mistaken, they are considering adding blood tests to their protocols.

    OST is not crap because it's the best procedure out there. When I say this, it doesn't mean that it's full-proof, but why not use it if it's the best out there possible? You know the current system is flawed when it takes a grand jury to finally sniff out Shane Mosley for PEDs.
    Yeah and if it wasn't for the Mayweather's paranoia you would not be asking these questions.

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    • ThePrince
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      #122
      Originally posted by ThePrince


      They're coming out of the woodwork, vacation's over!

      Pop Quiz: How many Olympic Athletes have failed an HGH blood test? Thousands have been tested in and out of competition... so how many have failed the fool proof best testing procedure the world has ever seen?
      Not one of the so-called experts can answer this?

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      • viperz007
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        #123
        Originally posted by The Gambler1981
        Floyd has no issue getting tested so I don't feel that way about him, though if he took time off came back and was reluctant to get tested I would think something was fishy also.

        Maybe he does though I don't know but if he fights again and they use OST again they have his smaple from teh Mosley fight so if his level were different that would raise a huge red flag. SO it would be kind of ******ed to have this stance because it would get him sooner or later, but who knows people get caught up all the time.
        dude ur a really bias person LOL

        so ur saying his taking that test during the fight weeks u go and ride his d!ck as being the cleanest fighter in the world??? what an arse hole

        then accuse someone who doesnt want to take that dang ****** test coz he thinks it might affect his performance during fight????

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        • The Gambler1981
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          #124
          Originally posted by H.E.R.
          The funny thing is that Johnny Chingas has as much proof of Mayweather using PEDs as much as anyone in the world has on Pacquiao using PEDs...none.
          So what, just because it is an unknown on both sides doesn't mean there can't be questions.

          The big difference between the two would be that one wants to be tested in the best possible way while the other is still not going that route, when he could easily just say hay Margarito lets take OST and clear this whole issue up on my terms.

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          • brown mamba
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            #125
            hes not on roids. hes been at a consistent weight for a long time now.

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              #126
              Originally posted by The Evil 1-2
              The main question is do people think that the current procedures that the commissions have in place are adequate enough? I believe that the commissions even admit to a certain extent that more can be done with their testing procedures. If I'm not mistaken, they are considering adding blood tests to their protocols.

              OST is not crap because it's the best procedure out there. When I say this, it doesn't mean that it's full-proof, but why not use it if it's the best out there possible? You know the current system is flawed when it takes a grand jury to finally sniff out Shane Mosley for PEDs.





              As I said before,

              Floyd thought the testing procedures were fine for 40 fights. Then, he gets on the brink of a bout with Manny,

              and suddenly its not good enough?


              We all see through that.

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              • The Evil 1-2
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                #127
                Originally posted by Alibata
                Yeah and if it wasn't for the Mayweather's paranoia you would not be asking these questions.
                Why do you think I'm saying this because of the Mayweathers? Why not reply to the points that I brought up instead of bringing up such a weak rebuttal. The question remains. Do people think the current procedures are adequate/ Like I stated before, the commissions are even considering adding to their procedures, which points to it being flawed in some way or another. Get this ******* vs. JoyBoy garbage out of the equation...I'm not either.

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                • Alibata
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                  #128
                  Manny says he had agreed to all tests, Koncz however said 7 days. Lets use 7 days and 1 immediately after the fight. In boxing during fight week when fighters are tapering down, does it matter if it was 7 or 0 day? What does your common sense tell you?

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                  • champ_kw
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Alibata
                    So you saying we should take a que from the *****s and give Floyd sr. way of thinking a chance? It is not 60 minutes that forms our opinions. It is common sense. You guys have 0 proof, none.
                    Your right, I have no proof. All I have is my opinion. All I know is no one, NO ONE, in the sport of boxing has been 50 plus fights deep into their career and their 8th division, and still maintains his speed, increase is endurance, and increase his power. I refuse to be that blinded by a fighter. Its not that serious for me to go into name calling and whatnot. Just know that in 2010 I support testing, not name calling and funny "he's on vacation" diatribes to avoid the obvious point here.

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                    • Alibata
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by The Evil 1-2
                      Why do you think I'm saying this because of the Mayweathers? Why not reply to the points that I brought up instead of bringing up such a weak rebuttal. The question remains. Do people think the current procedures are adequate/ Like I stated before, the commissions are even considering adding to their procedures, which points to it being flawed in some way or another. Get this ******* vs. JoyBoy garbage out of the equation...I'm not either.
                      7 days (1 after fight) - 0 days. Does it make difference. Use your common sense, I know you have it. All biases aside, does it make a difference?

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