Where are the HGH experts now?

[The Gambler1981]

Where does it say performance enhancing is only about cardio?


Btw, xylocaine changes the amount of pain one can suffer aka,

performance enhancing.

If I use a local pain killer...

Does the ammount of strength that can be built change if I can't hit stuff, does the ammount of flexibility change if I can't hit stuff, does my cardio change if I can't hit stuff. All taht can be made up, the only reason you need to hit stuff is because you are training for a fight and if your hands were an issue and nothing was allowed it could be worked around.

There is no level of fitness that requires you to hit stuff, so that level of overall fitness does not change.


If I use PED.

More can be done about my whole level of fitness, thus raising my level way beyond what I would normally be capable of.



If you can't see the differences I am sorry~ I am glad you disagree it makes me feel all the more correct.

[Reloaded]

So you saying we should take a que from the *****s and give Floyd sr. way of thinking a chance? It is not 60 minutes that forms our opinions. It is common sense. You guys have 0 proof, none.

Your very slow to catch on , its not about Snr , its about Manny saying NO and trying to water down a test designed to stop cheating ,,,,

THATS THE ISSUE GET IT , AND MANNY BROUGHT IT ON HIMSELF !!

[Vasyl’s dad]

If I use a local pain killer...

Does the ammount of strength that can be built change if I can't hit stuff, does the ammount of flexibility change if I can't hit stuff, does my cardio change if I can't hit stuff. All taht can be made up, the only reason you need to hit stuff is because you are training for a fight and if your hands were an issue and nothing was allowed it could be worked around.

There is no level of fitness that requires you to hit stuff, so that level of overall fitness does not change.


If I use PED.

More can be done about my whole level of fitness, thus raising my level way beyond what I would normally be capable of.



If you can't see the differences I am sorry~ I am glad you disagree it makes me feel all the more correct.

Floyd uses PEDs.

You don't have to admit, but the rest of the world knows it.

[viperz007]

I don't really care who you are, I am a fan of the sport also I jsut don't buy bullshit excuses that don't make sence.

I don't care what guys do outside the ring, if they retire or don't fight because there will alwyas be new guys to watch and enjoy, getting stuck on any fight or fighters or their foilbles is a waste of time.

dude if ur really into what fighters uses u should be watching out for them during their vacations not during their fight weeks u know why???

taking those illegal stuff is too risky during fight weeks than using them during vacations where nu one is watching and testing ur arse

is floyd being randomly tested right now?? if ur really into cleaning up the sport lets start with floyd he started it LOL

[Alibata]

Your very slow to catch on , its not about Snr , its about Manny saying NO and trying to water down a test designed to stop cheating ,,,,

THATS THE ISSUE GET IT , AND MANNY BROUGHT IT ON HIMSELF !!

I catch on very quickly and FACT is Floyd is scared. You slander a man then go on vacation. Testing is no longer an issue. The world is fine with what needs to be done. 7 days - 0 days it don't make a difference if you use common sense. Floyd ducked period. Oh but I forgot, the world does not have common sense only the *****s do. After all you guys are the foremost authority of PEDs.

[The Gambler1981]

Floyd uses PEDs.

You don't have to admit, but the rest of the world knows it.

It is always fun to strip away your arguements and leave you with a couple sentences of only opinion.

Like I siad before it boils down to this simple line.


You are wrong. No ammount of mindless talk and arguement by you will change that.

[H.E.R.]

It is always fun to strip away your arguements and leave you with a couple sentences of only opinion.

Like I siad before it boils down to this simple line.


You are wrong. No ammount of mindless talk and arguement by you will change that.

The funny thing is that Johnny Chingas has as much proof of Mayweather using PEDs as much as anyone in the world has on Pacquiao using PEDs...none.

[The Evil 1-2]

Did one guy in baseball get tested, or all of them?

Did one guy in cycling get tested, or all of them?

Did one athlete in the Olympics get tested, or all of them?


When this form of testing gets set across the board and not just for a particular fighter, then you'll see people agreeing with it. As it is, the guy who supposedly wanted a "cleaner sport" doesn't even require the testing for fighters under his own banner. The promotional company who sided with Floyd about this extra testing, Golden Boy Promotions, doesn't require any of their fights to have extra testing.

So based on that, along with having no factual basis for requiring these tests in the first place,

who are Floyd and GBP to ask Manny or any fighter to go above and beyond the commissions required testing if they don't even do year round testing themselves?


Don't worry, I don't expect an answer.


Btw, I form my own opinions. This OST crap, was just another in the long line of excuses for Floyd not to face a top tier welter. We saw it with Margarito and Cotto as well. "he has 4 losses, nobody knows him" "He needs to get his PPVs up".

The main question is do people think that the current procedures that the commissions have in place are adequate enough? I believe that the commissions even admit to a certain extent that more can be done with their testing procedures. If I'm not mistaken, they are considering adding blood tests to their protocols.

OST is not crap because it's the best procedure out there. When I say this, it doesn't mean that it's full-proof, but why not use it if it's the best out there possible? You know the current system is flawed when it takes a grand jury to finally sniff out Shane Mosley for PEDs.

[The Gambler1981]

dude if ur really into what fighters uses u should be watching out for them during their vacations not during their fight weeks u know why???

taking those illegal stuff is too risky during fight weeks than using them during vacations where nu one is watching and testing ur arse

is floyd being randomly tested right now?? if ur really into cleaning up the sport lets start with floyd he started it LOL

Floyd has no issue getting tested so I don't feel that way about him, though if he took time off came back and was reluctant to get tested I would think something was fishy also.

Maybe he does though I don't know but if he fights again and they use OST again they have his samples from the Mosley fight so if his hormone levels were different that would raise a huge red flag. SO it would be kind of ******ed to have this stance because it would get him sooner or later, but who knows people get caught up all the time.

[Alibata]

The funny thing is that Johnny Chingas has as much proof of Mayweather using PEDs as much as anyone in the world has on Pacquiao using PEDs...none.

Actually he has more proof because it is a fact that Floyd used Xylocaine. Pac on PEDs is a Floyd sr. concoction regurgitated by the *****s.