Where are the HGH experts now?

[Vasyl’s dad]

Just stop crying about your boy ducking random OST. It is what its is. Hopefully one day he will stop ducking and just MAN UP. Maybe he'll take on OST when OST is old and shot..........

Actually, the only crybabies here, are Floyd stans.

Why the need of OST, if Manny is one dimensional, ordinary, easy work and easy money?

[The Gambler1981]

Every fighter needs to train,

Floyd just needs PEDs to extend his training sessions. Xylocaine changes the overall levels he could reach by numbing the pain in his hands.

Why is it so hard to admit that?

Cardio wise what is the difference between swimming and hitting a bag, you can reach the same level doing them both just takes different muscles and a different ammount of time.

A PED would change the ammount of overall cardio beyond what would normally be capable.

Because you are wrong.

[viperz007]

All of what you typed here is meaningless.

I don't believe Manny is mentally weak, but if you want to go ahead (I wouldn't watch tonights fight if that is your belief though if you are a fan of Manny.

im not a fan of a certain boxer im a fan of all boxers who do their job in entertaining the fans

im a fan who wants both to be 100% mentally and physically ready

and im not such person who like to defend a boxer who like to go on vacation and retirement just to avoid any negotiation

and i dont care who wins tonights fight i just want to see an exciting FIGHT loll

i dont go on and discrediting a boxer who brought boxing on top of the sports again

[The Evil 1-2]

I just hope *****s can one day find their way out of the ******s and find some perspective.

I feel for them, i truly do.

How does one's economic background have to do with anything about the OST issue between Pac and Floyd? It's like you're saying people from impoverished areas have no insight. Did you even think before you posted this?

[Vasyl’s dad]

Cardio wise what is the difference between swimming and hitting a bag, you can reach the same level doing them both just takes different muscles and a different ammount of time.

A PED would change the ammount of overall cardio beyond what would normally be capable.

Because you are wrong.

Where does it say performance enhancing is only about cardio?


Btw, xylocaine changes the amount of pain one can suffer aka,

performance enhancing.

[champ_kw]

The difference in the examples your citing,

all of those athletes, were subjected to testing as required by their commissions. To add, they weren't the only ones asked to the testing, all athletes of the respective sports were made to test,

not just one. And not on the whim of a competitors jealous father and uncle.

The point is, sometimes it doesn't take 60 Minutes or any other media outlet to form an opinion for you. If you know there's something fishy about a guy belting 70 homeruns at 40 when during his prime he couldn't reach 50, or a cancer patient being 12 months removed from barely able to walk winning the Tour de France, or an athlete competing in 5 events at the Olympics and being no worse than the 3rd best in the world at each event, then u don't need them to be "caught" by a commisioned based drug test. Neither of them were. All of them were undone thru inuendo based solely on how outer world their performances were on a strictly "scientific" level, not a fan level. If u think what he's doing is not only athletically possible, but humanly possible w/o assistance, then I have an ocean in Kansa I wanna sell you.

[al-Xander]

Its not about trying to convince them, its just fun watching them scramble for new ways to make excuses.

I guess that explains why this subject keeps popping up.
Make fun of Floyd's fans who seem to know more about
Floyd than Floyd knows about himself.

Floyd went on a tirade mode and never mentioned anything
about the testing. He went out several more times after
that and still not a mention of it.

[The Gambler1981]

im not a fan of a certain boxer im a fan of all boxers who do their job in entertaining the fans

im a fan who wants both to be 100% mentally and physically ready

and im not such person who like to defend a boxer who like to go on vacation and retirement just to avoid any negotiation

and i dont care who wins tonights fight i just want to see an exciting FIGHT loll

i dont go on and discrediting a boxer who brought boxing on top of the sports again

I don't really care who you are, I am a fan of the sport also I jsut don't buy bullshit excuses that don't make sence.

I don't care what guys do outside the ring, if they retire or don't fight because there will alwyas be new guys to watch and enjoy, getting stuck on any fight or fighters or their foilbles is a waste of time.

[Alibata]

The point is, sometimes it doesn't take 60 Minutes or any other media outlet to form an opinion for you. If you know there's something fishy about a guy belting 70 homeruns at 40 when during his prime he couldn't reach 50, or a cancer patient being 12 months removed from barely able to walk winning the Tour de France, or an athlete competing in 5 events at the Olympics and being no worse than the 3rd best in the world at each event, then u don't need them to be "caught" by a commisioned based drug test. Neither of them were. All of them were undone thru inuendo based solely on how outer world their performances were on a strictly "scientific" level, not a fan level. If u think what he's doing is not only athletically possible, but humanly possible w/o assistance, then I have an ocean in Kansa I wanna sell you.

So you saying we should take a que from the *****s and give Floyd sr. way of thinking a chance? It is not 60 minutes that forms our opinions. It is common sense. You guys have 0 proof, none.

[Vasyl’s dad]

The point is, sometimes it doesn't take 60 Minutes or any other media outlet to form an opinion for you. If you know there's something fishy about a guy belting 70 homeruns at 40 when during his prime he couldn't reach 50, or a cancer patient being 12 months removed from barely able to walk winning the Tour de France, or an athlete competing in 5 events at the Olympics and being no worse than the 3rd best in the world at each event, then u don't need them to be "caught" by a commisioned based drug test. Neither of them were. All of them were undone thru inuendo based solely on how outer world their performances were on a strictly "scientific" level, not a fan level. If u think what he's doing is not only athletically possible, but humanly possible w/o assistance, then I have an ocean in Kansa I wanna sell you.

Did one guy in baseball get tested, or all of them?

Did one guy in cycling get tested, or all of them?

Did one athlete in the Olympics get tested, or all of them?


When this form of testing gets set across the board and not just for a particular fighter, then you'll see people agreeing with it. As it is, the guy who supposedly wanted a "cleaner sport" doesn't even require the testing for fighters under his own banner. The promotional company who sided with Floyd about this extra testing, Golden Boy Promotions, doesn't require any of their fights to have extra testing.

So based on that, along with having no factual basis for requiring these tests in the first place,

who are Floyd and GBP to ask Manny or any fighter to go above and beyond the commissions required testing if they don't even do year round testing themselves?


Don't worry, I don't expect an answer.


Btw, I form my own opinions. This OST crap, was just another in the long line of excuses for Floyd not to face a top tier welter. We saw it with Margarito and Cotto as well. "he has 4 losses, nobody knows him" "He needs to get his PPVs up".