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  • Jack3d
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    #221
    Originally posted by Reloaded
    Manny is probably not using Steriods , either anabolic or androgenic , steriods is a broad term that covers anti-inflammatory compounds and the others people associate to sports drug abuse , you got lots from vaso dilators like Glenbuterol to growth hormones , the issue is illegal PEDS , he is probably using nothing , but he could be , and Manny saying NO and watering down a test is not the right way of saying Im clean , just agree to better testing and make the fight everybody wins .
    Well of course we are talking about AAS. I'm not saying he is or isn't on them. I'm just stating my opinion on the subject of the substance in question.

    BTW, it's Clenbuterol and it's not a vasodilator.

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    • FloydTBE
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      #222
      why would their be talk of hgh?

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      • Jack3d
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        #223
        Originally posted by JonoYoungP4P
        why would their be talk of hgh?
        Probably because it's impossible to detect through a standard issue drug test.

        So people automatically assume since Pacquiao is refusing advanced testing, that he's on something that an advanced test would detect.

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        • Reloaded
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          #224
          Originally posted by SwoleBiceps
          Well of course we are talking about AAS. I'm not saying he is or isn't on them. I'm just stating my opinion on the subject of the substance in question.

          BTW, it's Clenbuterol and it's not a vasodilator.
          I wasnt having a go at you just adding to your coments ,,, Glenbuterol has side effects and like many drugs its the side effect that is the enhancement , like a tranquilizer that actually does the opposite in other species and in very small doses its like rocket fuel , one of Glenbuterols effects is that makes one breathe very efficant , in the old days they would say it makes a dog breathe under water ,,,,

          throw this into google buddy .

          Clenbuterol causes vasodilation ,,,some say it does some say it dont , but its A PED

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          Last edited by Reloaded; 11-13-2010, 08:03 PM.

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          • Canelo Phresh
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            #225
            Originally posted by viperz007
            where are those people that said pac is using hgh to bulk up, or gain muscles to go up in weight???
            does those people say pacquiao aint using it on this fight coz he weigh around 144lb?

            dang they just got owned after the weigh in

            steroids
            HGH
            what a bunch of ****** MORe Ons

            just cant stop discrediting the guy who gives exciting fights and bring back boxing to the top :///

            now they have a new topic to discredit the guy(pac)
            calling the guy a cheat for going so low on weight againts a much bigger and stronger opponent??? are those people serious???
            so put what pacquiao stance is aside and tell me why your against a better form of drug testing?

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            • 4773Y350NM3
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              #226
              Originally posted by Mannie Phresh
              so put what pacquiao stance is aside and tell me why your against a better form of drug testing?
              what really is the better form of drug testing for you?

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              • The Evil 1-2
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                #227
                Originally posted by Johnny Chingas
                Apparently, you keep missing the point that even though, one or a few baseball players were under su****ion,

                all players in the league were subjected to testing from the inception of the new testing standards. McGwire wasn't the first and only one to be tested.

                When the boxing commissions or sanctioning bodies decide that all boxers are to be put under the same tests,

                count me in as a supporter for "better testing".

                Even though, the supposedly inferior testing has caught,

                Roy Jones
                James Toney
                Fernando Vargas
                etc
                etc
                Well, since you state that you can count yourself "in as a supporter for 'better testing'" than, WE CAN FINALLY AGREE ON SOMETHING. I just wanted to get a general consensus on the need for a more stringent type of testing in boxing. Nice talking to you man. Let me know how the Pac vs. Margarito fight goes. I'm not watching it based on reasons I don't want to get into, BUT I'M SURE IT WILL BE ACTION PACKED.

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