Interesting video on drug test issue

[FloydTBE]

just hope the fight is made

[V.WEBB]

Floyd cheated his way in the scales in the previous fight, didn't he. Pac earned that right to make that demand

Anyway this fight is goin' to take place next year. A lot can still happen..

Huh?

You missed the point I was making. Pac uses the commission WHEN HE wants to. But, if he was really for the commission, he would allow them to do THEIR job and let THEM impose the penalties for missing weight and NOT him.

Anyways, when did Cotto or EM ever miss weight before...because Manny imposed his OWN penalties on them as well.

[mikemurni]

Floyd needs to straighten is act outside the ring. And Pac needs to survive his fight with Marg, that fight wont be a walk in the park like what most people think..Then the fight will get made next year. No other fights available for both.

[V.WEBB]

yup...he didn't have to accept anything...he could have just walked away (which is probably what Floyd was hoping for)


but the other reason it wasn't accepted was because of Bob Arum and Jerry Jones...yes, Jerry Jones


Jerry was promised and paid Arum for a fight in the new stadium....when Floyd said he wont fight in Texas, he pretty much got himself out of that fight...no point in continuing negotiations

:rolf:

And, when was Jerry promised this?

[PACnPBFsuck]

You want it to be an excuse. But there is no concrete evidence, or basis for even needing these extra tests. Floyd could have presented a case to the commissions and sanctioning bodies long ago if he wanted to clean up the sport since he felt it was so dirty. Seeing as how his family has been a part of the sport for 4 decades, him "knowing" how dirty the sport is, he could have began the crusade when he started his pro career. But he dreamed up this charade just to get out of fighting the next threat to his 0. Margarito had 4 losses, Cotto didn't have enough PPVs, and Manny is on steroids. The entire world sees through his little charade except for his most adoring fans.


Why did Pac say, "ok f uck it, lets do your ****** 14 days"?

He wants to fight.

This weekend, he'll be taking on another welterweight Floyd avoided.

How many times has Floyd come over weight for a Welterwieght fight, ZERO times. How many times has PAC ever failed a drug test, ZERO times.

So you see that both terms were obsolete, both terms would cancel each other out, the difference is that Floyd signed what PAC asked for, and PAC didn't signed what Floyd asked for.

That's the easiest way I can expain it, if you can't grasp that point, then you're toooooooo deep in his koolaid.

[IMDAZED]

:rolf:

And, when was Jerry promised this?

Top Rank is a bonafide idiot. What's funny is that he takes himself so serious. I really do hope he's on their payroll, otherwise...

**shudders**

[deejd]

[QUOTE=mikemurni;9505826]

Oh no, it ain’t anymore. This topic has already mushroomed on different subject. And it ain’t my fault because you made it that way.

And I'm glad, because you're proving that you're the standard when it comes to Pacquiao fans and not boxing fans.

Moron, read back my last reply and check if I said Cotto gassed out. I said Cotto had enough in the tank to make a comeback in the later rounds with a cut. What’s wrong with you? Can’t you read?

Cotto was in cruise-control, or is it because Cotto was mostly wide open for Clottey’s uppercut, which happens to be Clottey’s best punch. You know the same shot Pac threw that knockdown Cotto, and changed the complexion of the fight. It wasn’t being dehydrated that cause him to lose the middle rounds, in fact Cotto’s movement was good except that he had to fight with a cut early in the fight. You see, you don’t even know what you are talking about.

More play-by-play from a Pacquiao enthusiast.

So Campbell was fatigue and sluggish. Alright, at what point in the fight was Campbell lookin’ sluggish. Because if I remember it, Campbell knockdown Funeka twice. Plus there was a lot of ebb and flow between both fighters.

Campbell even states he was sluggish and he did everything he could to make the weight but his body wouldn't comply. He tried to go for the finish in the 2nd round, why do you think from round three to the 11th he couldn't get any punches off and stood there getting punched repeatedly? There was no ebb and flow or close rounds. The only close rounds were 1 and 12.

It's sad that you actually think Cotto won that bout. It's even worse that you think Cotto was a force a '46 and '45 I'm assuming. Cotto looked awful at '46, and he looked even worse at '45. It's why he's at '54 now

No he is not, and if you only watch the fight, then you would know.

... said the Pacquiao fan.

WTF, so what? Mosley had never fought below at 147 since 1999, and you say he would have been a great fight at 143? You were all over the issue of Dela Hoya when he didn’t fight at 147 since 2001, and you expect me to believe that crap?

And no there is no correlation between Cotto and Mosley because Cotto was a career WW. To make him move down at 145 when he came in at 146 in his last fight was acceptable.

Roach said it best... "You're better than Oscar." Roach also stated that "Mosley is too good to fight at '47" in regards to them rejecting Mosley at welterweight bout. Fact stands that we'll never know because Pacquiao didn't want to fight Mosley at '43 or '40.

No, Miguel Cotto isn't a career welterweight, he started at jr. welterweight, they're not the same. '45... and for his title... not acceptable.

So you changed the subject again because you are getting owned. It’s starting to get consistent now. I can’t prove his argument so I change the subject, and throw in the steroid excuse. Quite convenient for you, aint it?

How? Because I've proven he hasn't fought the best at every weight class and is possibly using by jumping up in weight in such a short span of time? Only Manny Jim Jones Pacquiao logic.

Really Pac slowin down when he fought Marquez and Morales? Or is it because Morales and Marquez are both great fighters themselves? Can you prove at what point Pac slowed down with these fights?

Pacquiao didn't look impressive against Juan Marquez at '26 so he moved up, was beaten by Morales who was struggling already at '30. Morales was thoroughly beaten by Raheem and then took Pacquiao 10 rounds in the rematch at a weight he was struggling to make. That's called slowing down, not to mention the mediocre and subpar competition Pacquiao had faced the latter portion of '26 and '30.

Roach had done a great job on Khan. You can’t accept that notion. He did win Trainer of the Year 4 times. He is a Hall of Famer trainer, and you are sayin’ he is not a great trainer? Do you see something that the BWAA don’t see?

You do know that Pac was having problems makin’ weight too as early as the Morales fights? You do know that he was planning to move up to LW even before he fought Marquez at 130? So what physical changes that you see that ain’t natural that you are talkin’ about?

What has Roach accomplished with Khan? He can start now with Maidana, but it still stands that Khan hasn't done anything except get smacked by Breidis Prescott.

Who was Roach training all four times he won? 2003 was a legit year. I'm stating he's not a great trainer, but I'm agreeing with you that he's contradictory and likes to lie.

Like I said I am not forcing you the same way that don’t force me to believe your trash about Pac being on steroids.

Pac agreed to the testing, moron. Whether it was the first or second negotiations, he agreed to it.

No he didn't agree. It's even been stated by his camp that they wouldn't agree to full random testing... why not?

You defending the fact that Pacquiao shouldn't have to agree to testing is pathetic. Here's Pacquiao's chance to stick it to Mayweather by agreeing to the demand and the taking care of business right.

If you're not a blind Pacquiao fan, when a blind Pacquiao fan responds as to why he should not test, it comes off as that fan believing that Pacquiao is using and needs that extra advantage.

Like I said before, if any fighter were to bring this to Mayweather and he said no or didn't agree to randomized drug testing, I'd wonder why and speculate that he is using because no clean athlete would object to that.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

:rolf:

And, when was Jerry promised this?

Bob Arum was gonna host a fight in that stadium regardless on who was the opponent


and keep laughing Webb...i dont see ANY eagerness on Floyd's part to even make this fight happen

in fact, that bigoted, woman-beating chicken**** wont even get into negotiations



truth is, Floyd came out of retirement just to smear the guy that kept people from missing him being gone

[Gorilla Dogs]

screw drug tests just fight with steroids or not. just fight

[deejd]

How many times has Floyd come over weight for a Welterwieght fight, ZERO times. How many times has PAC ever failed a drug test, ZERO times.

So you see that both terms were obsolete, both terms would cancel each other out, the difference is that Floyd signed what PAC asked for, and PAC didn't signed what Floyd asked for.

That's the easiest way I can expain it, if you can't grasp that point, then you're toooooooo deep in his koolaid.

In *ucking deed.