Dan Rafael: "A seven-day cutoff is quite REASONABLE but Floyd still REFUSED to budge"

[Red_Menace]

Your silly premise of WADA is irrelevant.

WADA do not govern any boxing commissions and are not obligated to drug test any fights of any state.

No, WADA doesn't govern any boxing commissions. The whole point of WADA is try to unify drug testing with the best possible tests and results across all of sport. They haven't made inroads in to boxing yet.

But seriously, what's your resistance to having WADA involved in boxing? Sauerland events uses the RUSADA to test all their fighters, from my understanding. I haven't heard any of those guys complaining. Why not get on board with a better program?

Mayweather has every right to ask that the USADA do the testing. They are the national anti-doping body for the United States (http://www.wada-ama.org/en/Anti-Dopi...List-of-NADOs/). Pacquiao has every right to say no, but I think it's a ****** decision and in my eyes it's an admission of guilt when he tries to place so many restrictions on how they do their testing. NSAC even said they were ok with the USADA doing the testing, as long as the minimum standard for NSAC is covered.

[FerdinandMarcos]

No, WADA doesn't govern any boxing commissions. The whole point of WADA is try to unify drug testing with the best possible tests and results across all of sport. They haven't made inroads in to boxing yet.

But seriously, what's your resistance to having WADA involved in boxing? Sauerland events uses the RUSADA to test all their fighters, from my understanding. I haven't heard any of those guys complaining. Why not get on board with a better program?

Mayweather has every right to ask that the USADA do the testing. They are the national anti-doping body for the United States (http://www.wada-ama.org/en/Anti-Dopi...List-of-NADOs/). Pacquiao has every right to say no, but I think it's a ****** decision and in my eyes it's an admission of guilt when he tries to place so many restrictions on how they do their testing. NSAC even said they were ok with the USADA doing the testing, as long as the minimum standard for NSAC is covered.

I guess Sauerland events are a bunch of *****s.

[Red_Menace]

what the *** are you talking about. No boxers get tested for blood or within a 7 day period before a fight so stop incriminating pac like what he is doing is terrible. He is taking more tests than 99.99% of boxers throughout the history of the sport, so why are you trying to paint him as a cheat.

I liked Pac right up until he refused to take part in that testing. As far as I'm concerned, if you're a professional athlete and you're clean you should be willing to take part in a good anti-doping program. Refusing just means you have something to hide. We know that there have been people cheating in every single major sport and getting away with it. We can't be naive and think that because someone seems like a nice guy that they can't be cheating. Unfortunately with sports, the only way to catch people is to test. This wouldn't have been such a problem if the commissions, promoters and sanctioning bodies got on board with a better program, but they have financial reasons for resisting it.

[fabie]

It is but only if the random urine testing shows nothing to be su****ious about, like in the Mayweather/Mosley example. Heck if Manny is really clean, they may even stop the random blood tests 24 days before. But, i don't expect you *******s to get it.

Its kinda scary that such a simple concept is that hard to understand. I feel sorry for the ******* generation, the future doesn't look to bright.

That is contradictory at best. Manny wasn't even tested yet and already a "suspect" by the Mayweather camp. He agreed up to 7 days BEFORE a fight and still a "suspect".

What su****ion are you talking about now?

The PRE-MEDITATED and PRE-CONCEIVED SU****ION? You said IF MANNY IS REALLY CLEAN...that is an indictment and/or an allegation and in any court of law, if there are no grounds of su****ions in the first place, then there shouldn't be a demand for a testing.

It is like going to a court of law and demanding a suspect of murder and demanding that person to be put on trial.

That's not how it works in real life. You cannot be accused UNLESS there are proofs to begin with. You cannot use the test itself as the main issue just like using the TRIAL as the main way.

There is a preliminary court hearing first to determine if there are enough evidence to implicate a trial.

In this case, WHAT GROUNDS DO THE MAYWEATHERS HAVE TO CALL FORTH DRUG TESTING?

• just because Pacquiao is too good and going up for his 7th weight level and knocking down people left and right, without losing speed and strength?

I'm sorry, that is not circumstantial evidence towards a "trial" or in this case, drug testing.

Otherwise, every opponent of a president (for example) can cry IMPEACHMENT! PUT THE PRESIDENT ON TRIAL!

What a joke.

No reply just yet?

On a different angle....Mayweather will be charged with Assault and Battery to his mama-baby because:

• there are proofs, interviews, police reports

That the "assault" (no matter how mild or severe) really happened. Then the proceedings go on in the court of law.

This is a perfect example on how things work in real life. The Mayweathers cannot demand a full OST or even demand a test because of their allegations WITHOUT DUE PROOFS.

• Here's a question that is relevant and cannot be answered:

"The Mayweathers forcing or demanding the drug test....and Pacquiao tested with clean results, what "penalty" should the Mayweathers get for demanding something that is false?"

In real life situation, if you accuse someone as grave as "murder" for example and you went in grave lengths trying to prove it without proofs or losing in the end, meant libel suits can follow.

There should be accountability for any wrong accusations or allegations.

[Bee Keepz]

I liked Pac right up until he refused to take part in that testing. As far as I'm concerned, if you're a professional athlete and you're clean you should be willing to take part in a good anti-doping program. Refusing just means you have something to hide. We know that there have been people cheating in every single major sport and getting away with it. We can't be naive and think that because someone seems like a nice guy that they can't be cheating. Unfortunately with sports, the only way to catch people is to test. This wouldn't have been such a problem if the commissions, promoters and sanctioning bodies got on board with a better program, but they have financial reasons for resisting it.

I agree with this, that's why I'm surprised Golden Boy Promotions haven't put the tests into effect. They were a huge support for USADA, but haven't used it on ANY OF THEIR FIGHTS, aside fromMosley-Mayweather.

The best time to catch Pacquiao on PEDs would have been right after the Cotto fight. Being tested for the Mayweather fight, would only show that Pacquiao is clean for the Mayweather fight. If Mayweather really cared to see if Pacquiao was doping, Mayweather should have signed that contract and got Pacquiao blood tested ASAP.

3:15 Khan clarifying some things on being blood tested in the Olympics...

[Red_Menace]

Golden Boy doesn't test their fighters because they don't want to find out some of their guys are juicing, or risk having one of their fights cancelled last minute because one of their guys is juicing. That's pretty much the same for every promoter. They'd never say it, but that's what it is. The commissions won't improve their testing because they know promoters will bring their fighters to a state with easier testing. It's all about money.

I'll check on that Amir Khan vid later, because I'm curious to see what his experience was.

[FerdinandMarcos]

No reply just yet?

On a different angle....Mayweather will be charged with Assault and Battery to his mama-baby because:

• there are proofs, interviews, police reports

That the "assault" (no matter how mild or severe) really happened. Then the proceedings go on in the court of law.

This is a perfect example on how things work in real life. The Mayweathers cannot demand a full OST or even demand a test because of their allegations WITHOUT DUE PROOFS.

• Here's a question that is relevant and cannot be answered:

"The Mayweathers forcing or demanding the drug test....and Pacquiao tested with clean results, what "penalty" should the Mayweathers get for demanding something that is false?"

In real life situation, if you accuse someone as grave as "murder" for example and you went in grave lengths trying to prove it without proofs or losing in the end, meant libel suits can follow.

There should be accountability for any wrong accusations or allegations.

A beating in the ring.

[IMDAZED]

No reply just yet?

On a different angle....Mayweather will be charged with Assault and Battery to his mama-baby because:

• there are proofs, interviews, police reports

That the "assault" (no matter how mild or severe) really happened. Then the proceedings go on in the court of law.

This is a perfect example on how things work in real life. The Mayweathers cannot demand a full OST or even demand a test because of their allegations WITHOUT DUE PROOFS.

• Here's a question that is relevant and cannot be answered:

"The Mayweathers forcing or demanding the drug test....and Pacquiao tested with clean results, what "penalty" should the Mayweathers get for demanding something that is false?"

In real life situation, if you accuse someone as grave as "murder" for example and you went in grave lengths trying to prove it without proofs or losing in the end, meant libel suits can follow.

There should be accountability for any wrong accusations or allegations.

The same penalty Manny gets if Mayweather weighs at or under the welter limit.

[fabie]

The same penalty Manny gets if Mayweather weighs at or under the welter limit.

Why would Manny get penalized if Mayweather weighs in at under the welter limit?

[IMDAZED]

Why would Manny get penalized if Mayweather weighs in at under the welter limit?

because Floyd would get penalized if he didn't.