Dan Rafael: "A seven-day cutoff is quite REASONABLE but Floyd still REFUSED to budge"

[orr0447]

If WADA feels its necessary to allow blood testing at any time, then I'd agree with them. They're the experts. I'm not sure what they can and can't test for with blood vs urine. I'm pretty sure they update their tests all the time, and some work with blood and some work with urine. And I think they keep the blood in a bank so they can retest it years later with new methods. So essentially you can get caught cheating years after the fact. They also do something about keeping a history of blood work so they can check for anomalies over time, and see if there is something su****ious, even if they're not sure what it is yet.

agreed

hope that fight takes place with no cutoffs since any other option means lot of doubt still. maybe they want to start with this 7 days offer for next negotiation to avoid shortselling but they better drop that sht cause its fckn dumb after pac said his 'everything' bullsht allover the place

can't wait to see pac explain that one when hes asked why did you say everything and switch it to 7 days now uhhhhh.....

[V.WEBB]

so when Floyd says 14 day cut off is good enough to detect peds its cool with the *****s. Now Floyd has retracted that statement 7 days is not enough time for pac. It goes to show the depths of the blind nuthugging that goes around here. Keep defending that racist woman beater that fights once a year. We keep celebrating a great humble, exciting champ that keeps fighting for his fans that is pacquiao.

Manny said that he "agreed" to testing all the way up to the fight. Now, his advisor is contradicting him.

Who do you believe in?

[IAMBIAZED]

Yes, you will catch some people with testing on the day of the event. But wouldn't you catch more people if you tested them during some period before the event as well? Are you an expert on drug testing? No. Am I an expert on drug testing? No. The experts are WADA and their affiliates, like the USADA. Why not leave the testing methods up to the experts.

Yes but the problem is some people jump to the bandwagon too easily and forgot they're just some John nobody working in a farm. There are tests right after the fight anyways. Why would pacroid roid up if he's going to be caught after the fight anyway? Wouldn't that be too embarrasing? And how much money is at stake? 40M then get caught?

I heard this things could hurt someone. So boxing is a non-hurt sport?

[Blubba]

If WADA feels its necessary to allow blood testing at any time, then I'd agree with them. They're the experts. I'm not sure what they can and can't test for with blood vs urine. I'm pretty sure they update their tests all the time, and some work with blood and some work with urine. And I think they keep the blood in a bank so they can retest it years later with new methods. So essentially you can get caught cheating years after the fact. They also do something about keeping a history of blood work so they can check for anomalies over time, and see if there is something su****ious, even if they're not sure what it is yet.

Your silly premise of WADA is irrelevant.

WADA do not govern any boxing commissions and are not obligated to drug test any fights of any state.

[IAMBIAZED]

Your silly premise of WADA is irrelevant.

WADA do not govern any boxing commissions and are not obligated to drug test any fights of any state.

That's usually the case if the a$s do the talking.

[Vasyl’s dad]

It's not random when you know you'll be tested all year round either. Using your logic random testing isn't even real because it's incorrect.






Idiot.

Sorry, but the agency and organizations that actually use year round testing,

disagree with you.

[mannyman]

Its reasonable considering these demands are not actually to improve boxing with drug tests, but just to get one up on the other guy. These demands are all about ego and mind games. It's Floyd's way of saying bow down to me, and Manny is so far content in saying "who the **** are you?"

Exactly.

If PBF was so concerned with cleaning up the sport of boxing he would be campaigning for OST across the whole of boxing and not when the biggest challenge of his career poses a threat.

Why did he not have Marquez tested?

And as for Pac - you're right, why should he bow down to PBF? He is after all, fighter of the decade. He's arguably as big a PPV attraction. And it's also arguable that his legacy is more secure than Floyds!

Anyway...

[V.WEBB]

I'm not Manny or Roach, nor do I represent them.

Call the Wildcard gym if you're so curious.

What a cop out.

Why did you demand evidence when Floyd Senior said that Manny was cheating?

I think I know why....

[Red_Menace]

Yes but the problem is some people jump to the bandwagon too easily and forgot they're just some John nobody working in a farm. There are tests right after the fight anyways. Why would pacroid roid up if he's going to be caught after the fight anyway? Wouldn't that be too embarrasing? And how much money is at stake? 40M then get caught?

I heard this things could hurt someone. So boxing is a non-hurt sport?

What you're saying doesn't make sense. It's my understanding there are drugs that are hard to test for a day after they're taken, and he wants a full week where he cannot be tested. Maybe he wants to use things to heal injuries, or give him an endurance boost on the day of the fight. I have no idea. I'm not an expert. There must be some reason that WADA thinks it's best to be able to test blood at any time, and they're the experts.

If Pac wouldn't cheat and risk embarrassment then why not just agree to the tests, especially with so much money at stake. All he has to do is agree to a test and collect $40 million, and he says no.

Yes, boxing is a hurting sport, but I still don't think that means guys should be abusing dangerous drugs or other performance enhancers. This stuff could ruin their personal lives, or cause long term health problems. On top of that there's just the issue of not playing fair in a sport where people are fighting.

[fcastro1]

What you're saying doesn't make sense. It's my understanding there are drugs that are hard to test for a day after they're taken, and he wants a full week where he cannot be tested. Maybe he wants to use things to heal injuries, or give him an endurance boost on the day of the fight. I have no idea. I'm not an expert. There must be some reason that WADA thinks it's best to be able to test blood at any time, and they're the experts.

If Pac wouldn't cheat and risk embarrassment then why not just agree to the tests, especially with so much money at stake. All he has to do is agree to a test and collect $40 million, and he says no.

Yes, boxing is a hurting sport, but I still don't think that means guys should be abusing dangerous drugs or other performance enhancers. This stuff could ruin their personal lives, or cause long term health problems. On top of that there's just the issue of not playing fair in a sport where people are fighting.

what the *** are you talking about. No boxers get tested for blood or within a 7 day period before a fight so stop incriminating pac like what he is doing is terrible. He is taking more tests than 99.99% of boxers throughout the history of the sport, so why are you trying to paint him as a cheat.