How Would You Rate Pacman's Defense? His "slickness"?

[fabie]

In the purest sense of the word, DEFENSE, as in:

• bobbing
• weaving
• dodging
• shoulder rolls
• parrying
• blocking
• slipping
• evasive footwork

He is a 6, but, but, but...what is elusive about Pacquiao is that he was never really a "sitting duck" in terms of just "defending". His "real" defense rest on countering the opponent and not letting them take breathes with his all-out / full-throttle / all-angle punching mentality.

Mainly, he is good with his right lead foot to go outside the orthodox's left jab and countering with his patented LEFT CROSS/LEFT HOOKERCUT and following up with his blistering quickness and pace (see Oscar De La Hoya, David Diaz and Miguel Cotto).

And thus his counter-straight blasting IS his defense. And in that light, he is a 9 or 10 (in a perfect 10 scale).

And so he makes up for his lack of "pure" defense with it.

[IMDAZED]

pacs defsene is a joke jmm already proved that so did morales. of course he is going to look good with his offese when he is fighting taylor made oppents with no jab. margs may be slow but he has a jab, pac is not going look steller against someone with a jab.

Cotto had a jab.

[jpunieves]

In the purest sense of the word, DEFENSE, as in:

• bobbing
• weaving
• dodging
• shoulder rolls
• parrying
• blocking
• slipping
• evasive footwork

He is a 6, but, but, but...what is elusive about Pacquiao is that he was never really a "sitting duck" in terms of just "defending". His "real" defense rest on countering the opponent and not letting them take breathes with his all-out / full-throttle / all-angle punching mentality.

Mainly, he is good with his right lead foot to go outside the orthodox's left jab and countering with his patented LEFT CROSS/LEFT HOOKERCUT and following up with his blistering quickness and pace (see Oscar De La Hoya, David Diaz and Miguel Cotto).

And thus his counter-straight blasting IS his defense. And in that light, he is a 9 or 10 (in a perfect 10 scale).

And so he makes up for his lack of "pure" defense with it.

finally... a post worth reading. thanks dude.

though i give pac an 8 for defense... he really wants the opponent feel they are winning against him and then poof... they became koko krunch on the floor

[fabie]

finally... a post worth reading. thanks dude.

though i give pac an 8 for defense... he really wants the opponent feel they are winning against him and then poof... they became koko krunch on the floor

Thanks. I think that the topic at hand is a bit biased on Pacquiao because Pacquiao was never really a "pure" defender as I have described it.

What is tricky in this beautiful sport of pugilism is that what is within the confines of the OFFENSE and DEFENSE is very subtle and I think that this is the very case on PACQUIAO AND DEFENSE issue.

Mayweather's DEFENSIVE PROWESS as well can be an offensive threat if one can really see the in-betweens.

The issue is really the application within the ring. The master, with his own ideosyncrasies is an ever subjective issue that makes this sport an art.

There are no "one way" to do things or being a classical and methodical boxer can be as boring as watching clouds passing.

The real issue is whether Pacquiao can "defend" his position well and take away what the opponent can't defend.

That is the true way of appreciating any fight.

[boxasmash]

7 or 8, depending on who he fights, against slow guys he can use it great.

[Dick Buffman]

Defense is underrated because fans underappreciate foot movement and footwork in general.

Just cuz' he doesn't "shoulder roll" which is actually an overrated tactic, but rather uses distance, spacing, angles and a blistering offense (best defense) doth not mean he is not a good defensive fighter.

With his ability, if he really wanted to he could be a goddamn defensive genius, but he actually cares about the fans and is wired to fight hard for 12 rounds to knock the other guy out.

A Real Man™.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Paul Williams has the same exact defense as Pacquiao.

It doesnt exist.

[Dick Buffman]

Paul Williams has the same exact defense as Pacquiao.

It doesnt exist.

To quote my Hippo loving, Man purse wearing, cologne stealing main man Street bully, that is like comparing Ice cream to Horse ****.

[letsgobrady]

The problem is getting him to slow down. I watched the second Marquez fight again the other day and one thing that stands out if you watch it is that Pacquiao was not moving his head at all for notable stretches. Marquez had confused him enough to slow him down and force him to think. And even then, Manny was still a bolt of lightening. The two keys to beating Pacquiao is to make him respect your power and your brain.

i mentioned this earlier, it seems like after the 1st couple of rounds manny doesn't move his head as much

[wizard king]

Cotto had a jab.

when cotto used the jab manny was controled and when cotto stoped use it he got his ass whooped