Better FINISHER: Pacquiao or (PRIME 80s) Tyson

[them_apples]

The difference between Tyson and Pac is.


Pac fought and beat HOFers in Morales, JMM, Barrera, Hatton and Cotto.



The only hall of famers Tyson fought beat his ass.

Larry Holmes and Michael Spinks.

Pacquiaos resume is far superior but you are still wrong, those are 2 Hofers (possibly ATG's) that Tyson destroyed.

[Franco2012]

Do you know not know how lineage works?

Spinks was the linea champ man. Who did he lose it to? Answer that?

I know what you are talking about but main thing is that TYSON was number 1 heavyweight before SPINKS fight and thats only important!

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

I know what you are talking about but main thing is that TYSON was number 1 heavyweight before SPINKS fight and thats only important!

I wont even attempt to decipher this. Jro can have at it.

[Benny Leonard]

Weight matters. It's not ****** at all. Let me explain why to you. You might not be able to follow though.. so I'll try to be as simple as possible.


Weight matters because if Tyson beats a welterweight he shouldn't get credit for it. Period.

Manny moving around in weight is a testament to his greatness because he's moving UP in weight.

Spinks HOF status is from his career at lower weights. He came to fight Tyson at a naturally higher weight class. So Tyson's win diminishes because of this simple fact. Do you get it?

Okay I hope you do.


Now if we are going to count Larry Holmes.... we better throw in Oscar De La Hoya for Manny Pacquiao as well right?



Manny's record against HOFer > Tyson


Sorry son. Nice try.

In the end, if you really want to get down to it, Pac fights with a handicap sign on his back. Tyson doesn't.

What does that mean?

Tyson was HW, he fought in the Men's division. No "catch-weights" no "he is to tall." excuses allowed. You fight.

Pac, the boys division.

Tyson would kill Pac in a fight so Pac and his boys made up divisions to separate the Lions from the cubs.

Now that is the ultimate truth.

And yes, it is allowed for discussion because when boxing was originally fought, there was only one division...and for a reason. Think about why.

[Franco2012]

I wont even attempt to decipher this. Jro can have at it.

So Burner

Who is number 1 p4p fighter today?

Did you say that if Paul Williams beat Martinez that he is then number 1 p4p fighter in the world?

NEXT!!!!!!!1

[jrosales13]

I know what you are talking about but main thing is that TYSON was number 1 heavyweight before SPINKS fight and thats only important!

#1 by who? The Ring?

Spinks was the lineal champ. He never lost none of his title in the ring.

Tyson was the most popular the most recognizable. But, Spinks was the champ of the division. You have to beat the champ to be the champ and nobody beat him until Tyson.

[Franco2012]

#1 by who? The Ring?

Spinks was the lineal champ. He never lost none of his title in the ring.

Tyson was the most popular the most recognizable. But, Spinks was the champ of the division. You have to beat the champ to be the champ and nobody beat him until Tyson.

I think that Tyson was number 1 by everyone back then!

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

So Burner

Who is number 1 p4p fighter today?

Did you say that if Paul Williams beat Martinez that he is then number 1 p4p fighter in the world?

NEXT!!!!!!!1

Huh???????????

[Benny Leonard]

#1 by who? The Ring?

Spinks was the lineal champ. He never lost none of his title in the ring.

Tyson was the most popular the most recognizable. But, Spinks was the champ of the division. You have to beat the champ to be the champ and nobody beat him until Tyson.

That's true. But that's also because Spinks ran away from Tyson until he was backed into a corner to get the fight signed. Spinks even admitted later it was the one mistake he made...Fighting Tyson.

[miron_lang]

In the end, if you really want to get down to it, Pac fights with a handicap sign on his back. Tyson doesn't.

What does that mean?

Tyson was HW, he fought in the Men's division. No "catch-weights" no "he is to tall." excuses allowed. You fight.

Pac, the boys division.

Tyson would kill Pac in a fight so Pac and his boys made up divisions to separate the Lions from the cubs.

Now that is the ultimate truth.

And yes, it is allowed for discussion because when boxing was originally fought, there was only one division...and for a reason. Think about why.

Pac's achievements below 135 >>>>> Tysons Career