why is mannys resume so overated and floyds so underated???

[infamous larryx]

Just joined good to see people discussing the best fighters.

One thing I am having trouble understanding is the people's opinions towards Mosely. Floyd Mayweather beats Mosely and everyone criticizes him saying Mosely is too old. Yet I saw Freddy Roach on an interview and he said that Shane came to their gym twice trying to fight Manny and they turned him down twice. There was a dispute over the weight. Shane agreed to fight Manny at the same weight (147) that he fought Oscar but they still refused. And Roach in his own words said that Mosely was better than Oscar and they would not fight him at this weight.

Now this is not meant as an attack on Manny because I'm a fan of his. But I seriously doubt if Floyd's camp had done the same thing that people would be so understanding. People hate Floyd so much they'll criticize him even though he did something Manny's camp did not want to do and that is fight Sugar Shane Mosely.

I am curious to hear what people think of this.

great post.........................................

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Just joined good to see people discussing the best fighters.

One thing I am having trouble understanding is the people's opinions towards Mosely. Floyd Mayweather beats Mosely and everyone criticizes him saying Mosely is too old. Yet I saw Freddy Roach on an interview and he said that Shane came to their gym twice trying to fight Manny and they turned him down twice. There was a dispute over the weight. Shane agreed to fight Manny at the same weight (147) that he fought Oscar but they still refused. And Roach in his own words said that Mosely was better than Oscar and they would not fight him at this weight.

Now this is not meant as an attack on Manny because I'm a fan of his. But I seriously doubt if Floyd's camp had done the same thing that people would be so understanding. People hate Floyd so much they'll criticize him even though he did something Manny's camp did not want to do and that is fight Sugar Shane Mosely.

I am curious to hear what people think of this.

cmon dude, pac didnt fight mosley so he can fight the guy that beat mosley in cotto. this is not that difficult to comprehend.

pac fought cotto who beat mosley & is with top rank. pac & top rank dont have to share the money with gbp while fighting a guy in cotto who has a bigger fanbase.

why risk pac when you can make more money risking it against your own guy.

As for roach saying mosley was too good, that was roach way of placating mosley. roach was just tying to make shane feel better with the "too good" comment. Its a way of saying no nicely. If roach told shane you are too good, that leaves shane no choice but to drop it.

The shane that showed up to fight floyd would have been murked by manny.


shane is done as a elite fighter. the way he gassed out after the 3rd round proves this.


why do you think he's fighting sergio mora now?



shane is done.

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

Where did you get that Shane was "overtrained" from?

[B]Was Chico weight drained when he fought Angel Manfredy before he fought Mayweather?[B]

The correct answer to your question Coach would be a resounding........................................ .................. NO!!!!

[baracuda]

****.....floyd became p4p # 2 after beating jmm at ww......if that was'nt what overrated is, i dont know what !

[S.G.]

It's really as simple as people like Pacquiao and as a whole they don't like Mayweather. Perception means a lot.

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

I honestly think Pac and Floyd's win over Ricky are about even. It really comes down to what you think is better; taking his 0 or beating him at the weight he was undefeated and dominate at. If some feel taking the 0 is better I can respect that, but again IMO I feel its about preference.

As far as the Oscar fight, I alway felt Oscar was done even before he fought B-hop, so I have a hard time giving either a ton of credit for beating him. They both get credit, but nothing to brag about.

This is fair and impartial posting right here; you all take note of Mr. Copeland's post.

[| THE KING |]

The correct answer to your question Coach would be a resounding........................................ .................. NO!!!!

Was he drained against Floyd.. YES! Floyd dominated Corrales and would have beaten him even if he wasn't weight drained. It was one of my favorite Floyd fights. Why overlook Chico was indeed drained against Floyd?

[fabie]

The funny thing about this thread is to issue a "winner" via validation of logic and argumentations. Good Luck.

I would rather see who wins IN THE RING and not OUTSIDE THE RING to be purported as the better fighter. Otherwise, we have the wrong sport.

The sport of boxing is about pugilism.

[| THE KING |]

The funny thing about this thread is to issue a "winner" via validation of logic and argumentations. Good Luck.

I would rather see who wins IN THE RING and not OUTSIDE THE RING to be purported as the better fighter. Otherwise, we have the wrong sport.

The sport of boxing is about pugilism.

True.. and this goes with every discussion/debate on this forum.

[fabie]

True.. and this goes with every discussion/debate on this forum.

Exactly. This could be the JEOPARDY of boxing and whoever "wins" the most "rights" = validation of his views as to who is the better fighter.