why is mannys resume so overated and floyds so underated???

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  • infamous larryx
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    #51
    Originally posted by Clayton Bigsby
    floyd's 3 best wins are against 2 borderline hall of famers & a 39 year old 1 year 5 month inactive future hall of famer.


    mosley-hof
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    • V.WEBB
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      #52
      Originally posted by T.I.
      Like I said, just calling it like I see it.

      Mosley was gassing after the 2nd round. He looked like he was twitching and ****. I remember watching that fight thinking he was having an asthma attack. He was tight the whole fight..
      He was twitching..and? He has done that before. Have you ever seen any of his other fights?

      Originally posted by T.I.
      I know Chico was weight drained for the Floyd fight..

      Floyd/Diego - Corrales was weight-drained, sick, had to do a bid after the fight. Got beat. (Floyd would have beat the guy anyways, but this didn't help Corrales)

      In the months leading up to the Mayweather fight, Corrales also found out his IBF 130-pound title had been abdicated by managers--and conveniently given to another fighter in their stable.

      “I had a real-estate company at the time in Phoenix. Next thing I know, one of my friends comes on the computer and says, ‘You vacated your belt?’” said Corrales. At that time, he was having difficulty getting his weight down. “I’m starting to read this article about me giving up my title. And I felt like I didn’t have the opportunity to give up my belt. It was my right to give that up.”

      Corrales sued his managers and settled in arbitration for an undisclosed sum. It was another distraction he didn’t need.

      But Corrales didn’t care about any of that; he simply wanted to fight Mayweather and resolve their bitter rivalry in the ring. It was time to settle affairs with a man who’d taunted him endlessly about his personal problems with his wife and virtually everything else, too. Corrales is not quick to exchange verbal barbs; he bided his time, seething as Floyd milked every public appearance with a mounting tide of threats, insults and goading. Finally, Corrales succumbed, and the bad blood was flowing freely in both directions. With combined black and Hispanic fan bases, the bout was a natural headliner to kick off HBO’s 2001 broadcast schedule.

      For Corrales, it meant making the dreaded 130-pound limit one last time; one final episode of long days with only a g****fruit to eat, of jogging in rubber suits and of endless steam baths to get down to the limit. One more time, and he’d be off to the 135-pound lightweights and living fat, never having to take off those terrible final pounds again.

      He walked up to the scale, and the fight was, in a sense, lost right there. For all his efforts in the steam bath that morning, shedding 8 pounds, he was still 132--two pounds overweight. He went back and ****** the 2 pounds off in time for the weigh-in. A day later, his body both starved and waterlogged from his ensuing rehydration, he entered the ring--146 pounds at fight time--and the results were a disaster.

      “I didn’t really realize ’til the third or fourth round that everything was going bad,” said Corrales. “And I was cramping up. … My legs started cramping real good, and I’m going, ‘What’s the deal here?’”

      The blood feud had gotten the best of Corrales, his fury clouding years of training and technique. After being picked apart in a surgical manner, Corrales was floored three times in the seventh. He kept pressing, and Mayweather kept hitting him. Finally, in the 10th round, after the fifth knockdown, his stepfather waved the bout off and saved him from moot punishment.

      “What the hell are you doing?” screamed Corrales. Woods, mindful of his stepson’s pride, shook his head--mute, yet resolute. Chico would take no more.

      “I would rather fell out dead in that ring than let that fight pass me by like it did,” Corrales said. “I don’t think I talked to my dad for two weeks after that. I couldn’t bring myself to talk to him about it. When it came up, I told him, ‘Hey, I felt what you did was wrong. But it’s water under the bridge.’”

      Soon after the Mayweather defeat, Corrales returned to an even more disastrous personal life. After looking at the police report and the charges before him--and recognizing that a conviction could land him several more years--Corrales figured his best option was a plea bargain.

      And I ask you again, was Chico drained when he fought Angel Manfredy? Just 3 months before fighting Mayweather?

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      • Doctor_Tenma
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        #53
        Originally posted by COACH-WEBB
        He was twitching..and? He has done that before. Have you ever seen any of his other fights?



        And I ask you again, was Chico drained when he fought Angel Manfredy? Just 3 months before fighting Mayweather?
        Or was he drained when he returned to SFW?

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        • trk
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          #54
          Originally posted by Mr. Copeland
          Honestly, Manny has 4 wins that are better than Floyd's best win

          Barrera 1st fight, Cotto, Marquez (at 130), and Morales in the second fight (third one was a waste of time).
          Barrera is better than Floyd's best win. However, Cotto was ranked below Mosley by just about everyone, many people though Marquez won both fights with Pacquiao, and Morales had lost 2 of his last 3 fights when Pacquiao beat him. I don't see how those 3 wins are any better than Floyd's wins over Corrales, Castillo, or Mosley.

          1.BARRERA
          2.COTTO
          3.CLOTTEY
          4.MARQUEZ
          5.OSCAR LARIOS
          6.RICKY HATTON
          7.MORALES
          8.LEDWABA
          9.SOLIS
          10.HOYA

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          damn now it looks even better
          It still looks lacking in depth compared to Mayweather's resume. Guys like Oscar Larios(coming off a KO loss and moving up 2 divisions) and Jorge Solis wouldn't make Mayweather's top 10. Ledwaba probably wouldn't either.

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          • V.WEBB
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            #55
            Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
            Or was he drained when he returned to SFW?
            Right.



            Dude went back to 130 and fought Casa twice..two really good fights. Not sure what it was, but I was never big on Casa.

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              #56
              Originally posted by LARRYX P4P#1
              mosley-hof
              oscar-hof
              hatton-hof
              corrales-hof
              castillo-hof
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              well your easy

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              • Ragnar Lothbrok
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                #57
                Originally posted by LARRYX P4P#1
                mosley-hof
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                lmfaaaooo.


                how many years has genaro retired?

                why is he not in the IBHOF?


                You think castillo is a hall of famer????


                I bet my account that castillo doesnt get in. hell castillo, corrales, hatton are not hall of fame fighters. hatton might get in due to popularity not boxing achievement & skill.

                stop trying to turn non hall of fame fighters into one in order to prop up floyd's resume.

                not gonna work in real life larry. maybe nsb. but not in real life.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by COACH-WEBB
                  He was twitching..and? He has done that before. Have you ever seen any of his other fights?
                  If you can't see that the version of Mosley that fought Floyd was having issues.. we'll just have to end it here.


                  Originally posted by COACH-WEBB
                  And I ask you again, was Chico drained when he fought Angel Manfredy? Just 3 months before fighting Mayweather?
                  I know he was drained and about to go to jail.. when he fought Floyd Mayweather.

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                  • M.I.C.
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                    #59
                    Manny Pacquiao would not be considered Floyd's best win either, especially when all the excuses for why Pac got dominated so easily begins.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by COACH-WEBB
                      Right.



                      Dude went back to 130 and fought Casa twice..two really good fights. Not sure what it was, but I was never big on Casa.
                      Was he drained when he fought Floyd or not? Simple question and answer

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