my fear on pac's skills when he fights pbf

[viperz007]

the thing is floyd hasnt fought anyone with PACS speed, stamina, power and weird angles lol
u cant read were punches gonna come from if its weird angles lol thats why most of pacquiaos opponent just cover their faces up to the 12 rounds

coz if they dont it will make their faces swell lol

the pacquiao that fought JMM is past never imagine pac as the same coz ull be surprise!

[Left Hook Tua]

Is it just me or did anyone else noticed that Pacquiao looked slower in that second Marquez bout than he is now? Again, i don't suspect anything. I just think that Marquez's style had something to do with that.

getting hit in the face when you start your combo does that.

plus he was having a hard time making 130 at that time. he came in at like 145 fight night for the 2nd marquez fight.

[led]

Well, i think it does take the kind of pressure that tua mentioned, but not 1 of the fighters who tried that were able to deal with Mayweather's accuracy and speed. I thought Mosley had the chin to walk through Mayweather's offense but he was getting tagged at will and wasn't willing to just dive in and let his hands go. I think Mayweather can fight his opponents at the perfect distance where he lands at will and his opponents miss, he can fight well moving back and countering his opponent on the way in, or he can stand his ground and push his opponents back with hard accurate shots. I believe one of these tactics, will find success against Pacquiao.

I think the most effective pressure fighter that was able to stay on Mayweather chest and land solid shots was Chavez, but on the inside Mayweather was raping him with uppercuts until the fight was stopped.

well then we will see. hope the fight happens.

[Carpe Diem]

I also noticed that Marquez's biggest mistake in that fight was when he tried to came forward instead of continuing to let Manny came to him. I don't think Floyd will do that, and he will keep himself in a better position to get hit lesser than Marquez did, but it will be competitive fight.

[mathed]

Didn't say it wasn't better but none of those fights were close.

GTFOH with that BULL****. Since some feel the ref didn't let them fight the times that they were inside fighting who was getting the better of the exchanges with landing the short punches inside?

Hatton himself even said PBF was a better inside fighter than he thought he was.

Since no one has ever beaten Floyd, all I can do to say that someone has had relative success against him is to point out fights where Floyd had to grind out a win. Cortez broke them up on the inside almost immediately every time they were up against the ropes.

I'm sure you saw the Green/Ward fight the other week and you saw what that ref allowed Ward to do for extended amounts of time. He leaned on the chest of Green smothering him solely on the inside the entire fight. Some refs allow that sort of thing and some don't, I'm not sure why some allow it and some don't but it is a reality.

My point is that Floyd's tougher fights have come against guys who have tried to more or less bully him around. I'm not sure if Pac can or will do that but to stand at arm's length and try to go tit for tat with him is not the to win but get shutout and basically fight Floyd's fight.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

in this thread, i never say anything against floyd but praise.

floyd is still different from jmm. i hope u dont bring triangle theory here.

When did I say anything about the triangle theory? I was responding to STYLE match ups. You said style wise he was bad for Floyd and I think it's completely the other way around.

I have praise for BOTH fighters, you can do that you know.....

I just think that Floyd has the perfect style to beat Pacquaio.

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the thing is floyd hasnt fought anyone with PACS speed, stamina, power and weird angles lol
u cant read were punches gonna come from if its weird angles lol thats why most of pacquiaos opponent just cover their faces up to the 12 rounds

coz if they dont it will make their faces swell lol

the pacquiao that fought JMM is past never imagine pac as the same coz ull be surprise!

well, for a gut feeling i have...pac is really in to surprise everybody.

[fcastro1]

pac has the speed, power, stamina and style to beat floyd.

however, undeniably, floyd is a monster boxer who adjusts easily. what if floyd, brings the game inside. does pac has enough substance to fight inside and compete with floyd's great rhythm?

my fear is wether floyd will get away with excessive holding. If he is allowed to hold then pacs attack will be nullified. Hopefully team pac will make this be known and pac will just destroy him.

[Left Hook Tua]

I also noticed that Marquez's biggest mistake in that fight was when he tried to came forward instead of continuing to let Manny came to him. I don't think Floyd will do that, and he will keep himself in a better position to get hit lesser than Marquez did, but it will be competitive fight.

pac is a very underrated counterpuncher.

the guy is more instinctual than technical.

getting into a shootout with him favors him.


that's why clottey got to last 12 while hatton and cotto couldn't.

clottey didn't punch at all , hatton and cotto traded with pac leaving themself open.

[fcastro1]

Floyd does well against boxers, you take away his space and press him you already throw him off his game. He is quicker than the guys that have tried that so far, i.e; Hatton and DLH but you notice how they seemed to have success against Floyd though. I think Manny has the speed and volume to really trouble Floyd should they fight. I don't see how as aggressive and active as Pac is that people are saying Floyd will dismantle him easier than any other opponent.

It is going to be hard to counter what you can't see first off and I doubt Pac is going to set there and want to hold a conversation with Floyd and touch gloves every 5 seconds like Mosley did.

i agree wuth u !