my fear on pac's skills when he fights pbf

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Floyd does well against boxers, you take away his space and press him you already throw him off his game. He is quicker than the guys that have tried that so far, i.e; Hatton and DLH but you notice how they seemed to have success against Floyd though. I think Manny has the speed and volume to really trouble Floyd should they fight. I don't see how as aggressive and active as Pac is that people are saying Floyd will dismantle him easier than any other opponent.

It is going to be hard to counter what you can't see first off and I doubt Pac is going to set there and want to hold a conversation with Floyd and touch gloves every 5 seconds like Mosley did.

the thing is pac is not a pressure fighter though.

he throws a lot but he's more a boxer/puncher recently.

what bothers boxers the most is a pressure fighter who keeps his head at their chest and don't give them space.

manny is not like that , though i'm hoping he trains to do that against floyd.

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Floyd does well against boxers, you take away his space and press him you already throw him off his game. He is quicker than the guys that have tried that so far, i.e; Hatton and DLH but you notice how they seemed to have success against Floyd though. I think Manny has the speed and volume to really trouble Floyd should they fight. I don't see how as aggressive and active as Pac is that people are saying Floyd will dismantle him easier than any other opponent.

It is going to be hard to counter what you can't see first off and I doubt Pac is going to set there and want to hold a conversation with Floyd and touch gloves every 5 seconds like Mosley did.

Please tell what success Hatton?

De la Hoya didn't really do anything cause regardless of what the judges scores were the closest you really could have had that fight was 8-4 at best.

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Please tell what success Hatton?

De la Hoya didn't really do anything cause regardless of what the judges scores were the closest you really could have had that fight was 8-4 at best.

they don't have to win for a style to have some success.

certainly did better than others who try to box floyd.

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If Floyd takes the game inside, it's game over for Manny, coz IMO Manny has NO inside game frolics, and I bet Roach didn't have that coming.

That is...if Floyd can come close.

True fans of Manny who know him by heart though, will swear that since his early Blow-by-Blow days in the Philippines, when he is taken inside he skirmishes relentlessly with the foe, and all of a sudden you'll see his opponent being knowcked out. Though he failed with Torrecampo once.

But that facet of Manny was gone since he had Roach as his trainer.

So we'll see if Manny still has that frolic in his early days when Floyd decides to take the game inside, but it will definitely be one-sided for Floyd.

Again, that is....if Floyd can come close....

well am a true fan of pac. i didnt mean that pac has no inside game. i just meant if has enough substance for that.

u r right...that is if floyd can come close

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they don't have to win for a style to have some success.

certainly did better than others who try to box floyd.

I understand a style can have its moments and said fighter still loses but if the rounds are not close and you are down like 9-1 on cards before you get ko'ed you didn't have any success.

If you feel Hatton had success be specific in what he was doing successful. That is all I am asking for.

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Please tell what success Hatton?

De la Hoya didn't really do anything cause regardless of what the judges scores were the closest you really could have had that fight was 8-4 at best.

So you don't think an 8-4 fight is better than the shutout that Mosley and JMM suffered? Had the ref let him fight, Hatton would have done better.

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pac has the speed, power, stamina and style to beat floyd.

however, undeniably, floyd is a monster boxer who adjusts easily. what if floyd, brings the game inside. does pac has enough substance to fight inside and compete with floyd's great rhythm?

Why do people keep saying this?

Pac had the most trouble with JMM who is a great counter puncher. Pac like to come forward, Pac has trouble with counter punchers.

What is Floyd?

The ultimate counter puncher, with speed and power to add.

I may be in the minority in this but I think Floyd beats Pac and even KO's him. Say what you will about Floyd but he's incredibly smart in the ring, doesn't take many chances and will capitalize on any mistakes you will make. He's also one of the best fighters since DLH to be able to change his tactics in the ring. He adjusts very well to what little success fighters may have against him early on.

I think it's the other way around, I think Mayweather is a terrible match up with Pac because Pac likes to overwhelm his opponents with volume of shots. Mayweather fights GREAT going backwards and his counter punching style against pressure fighters for me means he could KO Pac.

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the thing is pac is not a pressure fighter though.

he throws a lot but he's more a boxer/puncher recently.

what bothers boxers the most is a pressure fighter who keeps his head at their chest and don't give them space.

manny is not like that , though i'm hoping he trains to do that against floyd.

right pac should tarin for that. but since we almost dont see pac uses that becuase he is more effective on his style of attacking, i wonder how he could compete when floyd brings the fight inside. but anyway, we have to see it on november

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Why do people keep saying this?

Pac had the most trouble with JMM who is a great counter puncher. Pac like to come forward, Pac has trouble with counter punchers.

What is Floyd?

The ultimate counter puncher, with speed and power to add.

I may be in the minority in this but I think Floyd beats Pac and even KO's him. Say what you will about Floyd but he's incredibly smart in the ring, doesn't take many chances and will capitalize on any mistakes you will make. He's also one of the best fighters since DLH to be able to change his tactics in the ring. He adjusts very well to what little success fighters may have against him early on.

I think it's the other way around, I think Mayweather is a terrible match up with Pac because Pac likes to overwhelm his opponents with volume of shots. Mayweather fights GREAT going backwards and his counter punching style against pressure fighters for me means he could KO Pac.

in this thread, i never say anything against floyd but praise.

floyd is still different from jmm. i hope u dont bring triangle theory here.