my fear on pac's skills when he fights pbf

[tredh]

So you don't think an 8-4 fight is better than the shutout that Mosley and JMM suffered? Had the ref let him fight, Hatton would have done better.

Didn't say it wasn't better but none of those fights were close.

GTFOH with that BULL****. Since some feel the ref didn't let them fight the times that they were inside fighting who was getting the better of the exchanges with landing the short punches inside?

Hatton himself even said PBF was a better inside fighter than he thought he was.

[Left Hook Tua]

I understand a style can have its moments and said fighter still loses but if the rounds are not close and you are down like 9-1 on cards before you get ko'ed you didn't have any success.

If you feel Hatton had success be specific in what he was doing successful. That is all I am asking for.

i think hatton fighting that way gave him the best chance to win (even if it got him koed)

he would have no chance at all if he tried to box floyd.

small chance is better than no chance.


few fighters could box floyd. maybe someone with a much longer reach , much taller and a better jab.

[wmute]

ts you right on point, hard to get up close on pac without eating leather. but IF they get in a phone booth, it's all pbf.

Roach is not ****** though, he surely made plans for that, and we have seen Pac bringing surprises to the table before.

[tredh]

right pac should tarin for that. but since we almost dont see pac uses that becuase he is more effective on his style of attacking, i wonder how he could compete when floyd brings the fight inside. but anyway, we have to see it on november

I get what you saying in Pac training for that. But you don't get to the Super Bowl as a power running team and in the Super Bowl tranform to be a run-n-shoot pass attacking offense. I just don't agree with going away from what got you damn near the top of the mountain. If you saying he should train to be prepared for anything and everything I can agree with that but that is not the style Pac should employ unless he knows he losing and needs a KO to win.

[tredh]

i think hatton fighting that way gave him the best chance to win (even if it got him koed)

he would have no chance at all if he tried to box floyd.

small chance is better than no chance.


few fighters could box floyd. maybe someone with a much longer reach , much taller and a better jab.

I get what you saying Hatton had to go with what he knew.

At the sametime Hatton got beat in every way possible. PBF beat him on the outside and PBF beat him when they got on the inside.

[AllEyesOpen]

well, i see roach studying on that already. and pac has the speed also. what i thought is, what if floyd tried to fight inside anytime during the round and discovered that his skill is not even at par with manny. he could exploit it for the rest of the rounds til the twelfth. but still not that easy to come close against pac (just thought bout this idea lol)

Well, i think it does take the kind of pressure that tua mentioned, but not 1 of the fighters who tried that were able to deal with Mayweather's accuracy and speed. I thought Mosley had the chin to walk through Mayweather's offense but he was getting tagged at will and wasn't willing to just dive in and let his hands go. I think Mayweather can fight his opponents at the perfect distance where he lands at will and his opponents miss, he can fight well moving back and countering his opponent on the way in, or he can stand his ground and push his opponents back with hard accurate shots. I believe one of these tactics, will find success against Pacquiao.

I think the most effective pressure fighter that was able to stay on Mayweather chest and land solid shots was Chavez, but on the inside Mayweather was raping him with uppercuts until the fight was stopped.

[Carpe Diem]

Is it just me or did anyone else noticed that Pacquiao looked slower in that second Marquez bout than he is now? Again, i don't suspect anything. I just think that Marquez's style had something to do with that.

[AllEyesOpen]

Is it just me or did anyone else noticed that Pacquiao looked slower in that second Marquez bout than he is now? Again, i don't suspect anything. I just think that Marquez's style had something to do with that.

It was the style, he wasn't able to just let go at will like he did against Cotto & Clottey.

[tredh]

Is it just me or did anyone else noticed that Pacquiao looked slower in that second Marquez bout than he is now? Again, i don't suspect anything. I just think that Marquez's style had something to do with that.

Marquez style had everything to do with it. Manny had to think more because he knew he was missing more than usual and more punches were landing on him than usual so that made him think more instead of just reacting. You are faster when you are just reacting instead of thinking then reacting.

Another example is PBF switching to a high guard in the early part of Judah fight it allowed him to react instead thinking what can he do to avoid the speed of Judah then counter. It allowed to just block the punch and react accordingly IMO.

[led]

I get what you saying in Pac training for that. But you don't get to the Super Bowl as a power running team and in the Super Bowl tranform to be a run-n-shoot pass attacking offense. I just don't agree with going away from what got you damn near the top of the mountain. If you saying he should train to be prepared for anything and everything I can agree with that but that is not the style Pac should employ unless he knows he losing and needs a KO to win.

yea. train.

u mean pac all needs to do is to stick to his gun?

well, pac didnt do much for rope-a-dope then, in so short a time coz of training, pac uses it decently now.