Should there be a Super Heavyweight Division?

[jrosales13]

Then Cruiserweights who weigh near 180-190 pounds will stand absolutely no chance against men who will outweight them by 60-100 pounds.

Well if you merge the HW division and create the super HW division I don't see any of those CW getting outweight by 60-100 pounds.

Or what weight would the super HW division start in? 270 pounds?

[Portman]

Now i have nothing against the big boys such as the Klitschko's. Especially Vitali.

but ever since Lennox Lewis the big boys have reigned supreme over the division.

I miss the days of 200-220 lb. champions.

Now hear me out.

If we were to install a Super Heavy division it may keep some of these blownup heavyweights down at a decent weight instead of trying to blow up to match size with the naturally bigger heavier guys.

There is a legitmate amount of fighters who(once they mature) out grow the cruiserweight division but are still too small to compete on an elite level in the Heavyweight division.

Now the main downside is that we would be stripping the current Heavyweight champs and making them Super Heavyweight champs. Almost making them step down a notch since the Heavyweight Champion of the World is considered the highest honor in boxing.


What do you guys think?

Mhm. I like the idea in theory but once you actually have to create it, you have to face the realities. As some of the other posters have mentioned it will split the already lacking talent there is in the HW division.
Maybe the thing we haven't calculated in our equation is the fact that new HW talent might blossom under these circumstances, instead of being suppressed due to sheer size.
I do agree that something like this would create more interesting and satisfying fighters, but perhaps it would come short on the other end, the Super Heavyweight division that is.

It's all nit picking, there will be negatives and there will be positives. It's just which one of those two that outweigh the other one.

[Spray_resistant]

But Chambers beat Dimitrenko,and Wlad and Vitali have been beat in the past by smaller men(Sanders,Byrd,Brewster etc)Valuev was also beaten by Chagaev and Haye.
Making a SHW division would make both divisons absolutely awful.
Who would be in the SHW division?

Well when you have guys skill wise on an equal level the much bigger fighter will generally win and Chambers really if anything exposed Dimitrenko as not that good.

The same with Valuev and Chag, and lets not start about Byrd like he really "beat" Vitali when he was just lucky enough to be at the right place at the right time.

Guys like Brewster and Sanders would be average size HWs anyway and though smaller than Wlad, Vitali, & Lewis are not totally out matched physically like Byrd and Chambers.

[Fighting Marine]

Well if you merge the HW division and create the super HW division I don't see any of those CW getting outweight by 60-100 pounds.

Or what weight would the super HW division start in? 270 pounds?

How many talented Super Heavyweight fighters are fighting in Boxing today? Not many. An extra division will be pointless.

A SHW division will be bone dead dry. It Will just be an excuse for fighters not to train as hard aswell.

This idea doesn't seem practical.

[MidnightSpecial]

But Chambers beat Dimitrenko,and Wlad and Vitali have been beat in the past by smaller men(Sanders,Byrd,Brewster etc)Valuev was also beaten by Chagaev and Haye.
Making a SHW division would make both divisons absolutely awful.
Who would be in the SHW division?

and all of the mention fights were not fun to watch because the way you have to fight and win against those big guys is not pleasing to the eyes.

and when your 40 lbs lighter and a number of inches shorter you cant exactly trade and make an interesting fight.

by making a cut division you will make people of the same body type and weight fight each other.

getting rid of mismatches

[MidnightSpecial]

Mhm. I like the idea in theory but once you actually have to create it, you have to face the realities. As some of the other posters have mentioned it will split the already lacking talent there is in the HW division.
Maybe the thing we haven't calculated in our equation is the fact that new HW talent might blossom under these circumstances, instead of being suppressed due to sheer size.
I do agree that something like this would create more interesting and satisfying fighters, but perhaps it would come short on the other end, the Super Heavyweight division that is.

It's all nit picking, there will be negatives and there will be positives. It's just which one of those two that outweigh the other one.

to be honest the division is lacking because the brothers are dominating.

there are some legitimate cruisers but what are they gonna do once they grow into a heavyweight?

get swatted by a guy 3x their size?

[Pirao]

One of the worst ideas ever. If you want a SHW division, you would be indirectly admitting that the smaller HWs of the past could not compete with today's HWs.

I've read many times how Tyson, Frazier and co would **** the Klitschkos, if you believe that, then why would you want a SHW division? Eventually a good small HW will emerge than can dethrone them, right? So there would be no need for a SHW division.

[jrosales13]

How many talented Super Heavyweight fighters are fighting in Boxing today? Not many. An extra division will be pointless.

A SHW division will be bone dead dry. It Will just be an excuse for fighters not to train as hard aswell.

This idea doesn't seem practical.

Oh I agree with this. Especially when K bros retire. Is going to be a waste of a division. Once again I agee.

But, that wasn't Nchristo point. I also mention this. If there is a SHW division is created then merge the CW and HW together. Have a limit of what? 225? 230? And, if that happens cruiserweights would not be outweigh by 60-100 pounds. Maybe 50-60 pounds but not 60-100 like you mentioned.

However, that would leave a garbage ass division at SHW which I don't want to see.

[gingeralbino]

and all of the mention fights were not fun to watch because the way you have to fight and win against those big guys is not pleasing to the eyes.

and when your 40 lbs lighter and a number of inches shorter you cant exactly trade and make an interesting fight.

by making a cut division you will make people of the same body type and weight fight each other.

getting rid of mismatches

if u increase the CW limit then some HWs will be forced to fight as fat bastards or get in shape and fight at CW, it would help out a weak CW division by increasing the number of fighters that can fight there, and would reduce the number of mismatches.

Well thats the theory, in practice they would probably just turn up fatter to fight at HW.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

One of the worst ideas ever. If you want a SHW division, you would be indirectly admitting that the smaller HWs of the past could not compete with today's HWs.

I've read many times how Tyson, Frazier and co would **** the Klitschkos, if you believe that, then why would you want a SHW division? Eventually a good small HW will emerge than can dethrone them, right? So there would be no need for a SHW division.

Who cares about that? That has nothing to do with the thread topic.