60/40 for Floyd fair?

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  • charlieg
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    #101
    I think 60/40 is fair.

    60 to the winner, 40 to the loser. If Mayweather is so damned confident then he wouldn't object to that.

    60/40 to one guy regardless of the outcome is bull****.

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    • Spoon23
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      #102
      Originally posted by Frighteous
      Ariza to press after Pac denyed the tests: "Pac doesn't know what he takes."

      real quote
      You don't make sense??

      The topic here is does floyd deserve 60/40.. Your in the wrong thread, but while you are still here.

      Answer this simple question.

      Name a fighter aside from Pac that floyd can fight that can break ppv records with him?

      Pac and May are the 2 fighters who need each other to break ppv records, therefore it should be 50/50.

      But if you found the replacement guy who can break the ppv records with him do tell. I'm waiting for you to tell me..
      Last edited by Spoon23; 06-21-2010, 09:18 AM.

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      • #1Assassin
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        #103
        50/50 is fair. floyd is just posturing though so arum and roach wont try to **** him over on the terms n ****.

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        • tusc1976
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          #104
          Originally posted by feefiflofum
          no its not fair cus i remember mayweathers last fight he has the biggest hype behind him and GBP value he was exposed to over 4 million PPV buyers.. yet he only pulls in like 1.5 million, he is a cash cow failure

          that's like me making a movie with tom cruise and putting 100 million in advertising and production only to pull in 80 million

          while pacquiao like the blair witch project movie where it was made with 100k and made over 100 million, pulls in 700k with very minimal advertising and no 24/7 on HBO

          pac is the draw here
          This is ridiculous.

          I’ll give Mayweather his credit for the millions of PPV Buys with De La Hoya, Hatton, Marquez, and Mosley. It’s definitely an accomplishment. But if you’re telling me that’s the reason why Pacquiao should only get 40% you must be pretty ******.

          You CANNOT compare the 700k vs the 1.5 million that Pacquiao vs. Clottey and Mayweather vs. Mosley respectively drew. First of all, Mayweather had a dance partner. Shane Mosley was an elite fighter, former pound for pound champion, future hall of famer house hold name where as Joshua Clottey is…well Joshua Clottey.

          In the PPV sells that Mayweather vs. Judha and Baldomir made, Pacquiao made that in the Clottey fight. I would say that Judha had a stronger following than Clottey. In the Baldomir match, ppv sales was a disapointment.

          And to put the icing on the cake. Look at Pacquiao selling out the 50k + seats at Cowboy Stadium with a no name. Mayweather and Marquez literally gave out tickets to fill up the place.

          Give the man his due. Pacquiao Mayweather 50/50 split or 60/40 to the winner!!!!!!!! You can't get any more fair than that.

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          • Low_ki
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            #105
            Originally posted by Spoon23
            wtf, major ***** on the loose lol

            Floyd has been preaching retirement, Floyd preaching 60/40, floyd preaching ost.. And who is delaying.. Oh yea your right its not Floyd
            who is the one who refused to take a simple blood test for months. I swear there should be a ******* holocaust...oh and no *****.

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            • Spoon23
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              #106
              Originally posted by Low_ki
              who is the one who refused to take a simple blood test for months. I swear there should be a ******* holocaust...oh and no *****.
              If you check out Floyd's body. He looks really ripped nowadays. He has access to new steriods and designer drugs evident of the muscle bound riod body guards that he has lol

              He looks bigger than Mosely during there fight. He is more ripped than even Pac @ 147lbs. He truly is Bigger than he used to be. People are talking he should fight in the middle weight in the future coz he has grown in size. So who really is in Peds?

              I think his misdirecting us to pac so he can hide his ways. Often times when his not fighting his just in the gym with his body guards and gym juicers. He can bulk himself up and stop using it before a coming fight.

              Geez, who really is on Peds?

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              • Spoon23
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                #107
                Originally posted by Low_ki
                who is the one who refused to take a simple blood test for months. I swear there should be a ******* holocaust...oh and no *****.
                heres some more hehe..

                Pacman doesn't completely refuse random blood testing. He did blood testing for Hatton, Morales,Delahoya etc. He even offered blood testing right after the fight in the locker room.

                He doesn't want blood test close to the fight because he has lost once from morales fight 1 were the Nevada athletic committee lost his blood test and had to blood test him a day before the actual fight with morales.

                Plus the fact that he wasn't able to use his gloves because morales insisted they both use the winnings pillow gloves, and factor in the bloody cut from a head butt made him lose the fight. But We all know the next two fights with morales was a breeze.

                Knowing that he had a bad history of blood testing. He doesn't want that to happen again. Its a stigma that can effect his mental frame of mind. He believes he is weakened by drawing blood.

                It is enough for a fighters mental frame of mind to be messed up and leave a fighter unsure of himself coming into a big fight.

                Do you want an 80% pac going into a fight? Don't you want Pacman and Mayweather fighting in their best form? They should go in there @ a 100%.

                If Pac is not in his 100% mindset going into the fight don't you think its not what we fans would want? Having a fighter @ 80% will rob us with a great fight. Leaving us with question marks who really won.

                Have you even taken blood before? Some military men even squirm just getting blood. Some even act like little kids.

                If you watch 24/7 mosely mayweather when mosely was taken blood. There were 3 vials full of blood not the droplet or the tablespoon that they where talking about.

                Have you boxing fans ever gotten any blood before? Getting blood can pop a vain and leave your arms stiff for a day or 2. What about if it happens to pac who trains like crazy for a fight?

                You all know boxer needs their arms to work perfectly. It's like a soldier having a practice or going into war, they need their guns in tip top shape to go into practice or go into a battlefield knowing their gear is in good shape.

                It's like in any pro sport they need the best gear. the best car, as tiger woods needs his best golf set to train, as A formula 1 driver needs the best car.

                Now, How can you train if your arm is sore from the injection that happened? Getting a blood test will stiffen your muscles. So how can pac train? when a guy like him relies on speed to win fights? Have you tried bending your arm back in forth after a blood test your muscles in your arms are stiff and swollen.

                Having to take 8 blood test in an intense training camp will defintely hamper Pac's training, if the injection will be swollen, he will practicing with a swollen arm for 1-2 days per blood test multipy that to 8 times at as to what happened to mosely.. The result is catastrophic.

                A walking zombie is what happened to mosely, a spent fighter who gassed out to early in the fight. Mouth opened as early as the 5th round.

                Have you tried a blood test before? You should know it has a stinging pain in your right after a blood test and it last for a day or 2 so how can you train?

                Do you see tiger woods carrying a lousy golf set? Do you see a tennis player like the venus sisters carrying a lousy racket for training? Pros need their gears, for boxers it's there arms. They should always have it in tiptop shape to perform there very best.

                So, drawing blood means a swollen arm.. Ain't that not performing or practicing at the highest level? they lose 1-2 days of quality training everytime the are tested. Don't you think a Hair sample is better for testing coz it's none evasive and can last longer than blood and urine?

                Knowing Pac is smaller than floyd and has a light welterweight frame and as Emanuel Steward pointed out after the Mayweather Mosely fight, He mentioned that in his eyes pacman's body frame is only a small light welterweight. And goes to say Floyd has all the advantages, Height, reach and strength.

                So Who loses more in training and in the actual fight?

                If you want fair and quality training I believe a non evasive way of testing P.E.D's should be proposed. Like hair. It last longer shelf life. Even last for years they say. So if they cheat there hair will prove it after the fight. And you can always go back and check even long after the fight when new advanced checking are adapted.

                It's all about fair game. Its a brutal deadly sport both should be @ the best when they fight @ the highest level. There must be a way to have a non evasive test.

                So who is delaying the fight really? lol geez *****s are getting dumber every minute. I swear lol

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                • FLY TY
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                  #108
                  55-45........

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                  • Nuurzhaelan
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Spoon23
                    They need each other: 50/50 is the way to go.

                    PPv numbers for the Mayweather vs Mosely garnered 1.4million. 2 americans in their homeland. While Pacman who is a foreigner who fought cotto who is just as popular as mosely got 1.250 million ppv.

                    Plus, considering Pac is the fighter of the decade, pound for pound king, and 7 division champ. Pac is definitely giving a lot on the table to make this a PPV success.

                    Pac's credentials and Mayweathers credentials are the reason this is suppose to break PPV all time record.

                    They need each other: 50/50 is the way to go.

                    If Floyd has to be a greedy bastard the most he can ask is 55/45 no more no less. If it's 60/40 he is definitely ducking the fight again plain and simple.

                    He is over pricing himself if he asks more than a 55/45 split.

                    Common sense should dictate a 50/50 split, but just so it happens 55/45 is fine with me and most fans, more than that is just crazy talk, Boxing fans make this fight happen!

                    If Floyd will insist to a 60/40 boxing fans should expose Floyd as the ducker he really is!
                    Has this ever been proposed?:

                    Floyd gets 55%-60% if Pacquiao does not submit to the full range of random, olympic style tests without a cutoff date. If Pacquiao agrees to the tests fully, perhaps he gets fully 60%.

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                    • shabs1
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Spoon23
                      Answer this simple question.

                      Name a fighter floyd can fight that can break ppv records with him aside from pac?

                      If you found the fighter that can break PPV numbers with him I guess Floyd really deserves 60/40

                      I'll wait for your answer if you found the guy =P
                      It really doesn't matter though because Floyd will be guarnteed 20+ mill with whoever he fights while PAC will be offered 10-13 mill that just shows right there who promoters/hbo think is the bigger draw Floyd outsold PAC 2-1 plain and simple Marquez ain't a draw and u will see that when that fight comes around yet Floyd did a 1 mill numbers don't lie love for a fighter doesn't meen he deserves 50/50 in before march he did but when backed out and 700k to pbf 1.4 mill call it what u want if clottey ain't a draw or known then what the hell are u doin fightin him?

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