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  • Spoon23
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    #71
    Originally posted by mr.applesauce
    answer to your questions:

    1. PAC

    2. PAC

    but now answer me this:

    can you name me a fighter that Manny can fight and do 1.4 mil or break PPV records with?

    so your questions don't prove much.



    and Floyd's PPV numbers against common opponents as well as his last fight did better than that of Manny's

    so his case of a higher percentage is understandable, although 60/40 is pushing it.

    and someone being highly decorated P4P wise, or anything else does not do much in negotations.

    if that were the case then Manny and Floyd should have gotten a higher percentage against De La Hoya.

    ...now i'd be more than happy if they make the fight 50 / 50 or even 40 / 60 for Manny, as long as the fight is made.
    but people hating Floyd for something they praise when Manny does, to me that's just ******ed
    It does, that is why they need each other, 50/50 is what I'm harping coz in order to break the all time ppv number they need each other. 50/50 is the right call coz it is pac and it is may who can make it happen.

    Not one of them can make it on there own to reach 2.4 million up, therefore it should be 50/50 split.

    They need each other to make it a success.

    Clear enough for you?

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    • PeloKing
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      #72
      even though mayweather is bigger draw, 60/40 is too much

      maybe around 55 45 or less...

      but we all know that pacquaio will only agree on 50/50 so

      please mayweather accept it, this is the highest payday of your career

      and i want to see this fight

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        #73
        Originally posted by Stone Cold 316
        Pac, Cotto, Pwill.

        Its very plausible to say he could break 1.4 with any of those 3.

        Also if the the fact that Pac is forieign and thats why he dosent sale as much a Floyd(Ive seenyou use this excuse several times), why wouldnt Floyd get the larger split for a fight in the US? If the fight were in the phillipines where Pac is more popular than Floyd Id agree Pace deserves the bigger split.
        Huh? cotto vs may won't make more than may vs mosely, especially with the beat down he took with pac. He ain't the same luster fighter now.

        Pac, yes they will break the all time PPV numbers that is why May and pac need each other to make it a success.

        They are both talented and backed up with amazing credentials it makes so much sense that 50/50 is just fair. Coz not may nor pac alone can make a ppv higher than 1.4 except when they are the once fighting @ each other that will make it break records.

        So I believe together with all the majority of the votes here in this poll 50/50 is the way to go

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        • Da Hammer
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          #74
          at 60/40 floyd clearly does not want the fight and anyone other than floyd fans can see that. At most i will say it should be 53/47 floyd. However they could always all incentives. If floyd wins by KO it jumps up to 60/40 and if Pac wins by KO he gets 55/45 floyd would never agree to those terms but just a suggestion anyway...

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            #75
            Originally posted by boxer2k5
            manny made 6 million his last fight floyd made 30. floyd has overall more ppv buys than manny plus against common opponents floyd numbers kill manny. floyd has 4 consecutive fights over a million ppv buys. and manny taken 40 he will still earn more money than he ever earned in a fight. manny wont take it because on paper its giving floyd an edge. manny is a brat behind closed doors who almost backed out of bother oscar and hatton fights because of money.
            Clottey vs Pac had 'NO' 24/7. 24/7 are only done for super fights like Pac/cotto, May/mosely. knowing that read up below.

            Pac wasn't a house hold name yet when he fought DLH. It was after beating DLH that made him a popular boxer when he made DLH quit in his stool. Mayweather was already a star when he fought DLH and had fought in american soil in more years than pac.

            It was after DLH that shoot him up as a house hold name. Pac was going up in popularity.

            When Pac fought hatton it was 850k while before that mayweather fought hatton for 900k. (note hatton that time was undefeated so it was more sale able to the viewing public knowing their both undefeated fighting each other.

            When Pac fought Hatton he still did 850k even if Hatton's star power wasn't the same like when he faced Mayweather coz he wasn't undefeated anymore.

            The best way of gauging their populartiy is their present fight that had "24/7" and commercial hype, which was the cotto,pac fight and Mayweather mosely fight.

            You can't pay a hollywood actor a huge talent fee if his star power is waning down. If a holllywood actor was big in the 90's but not anymore at present. Will you still pay him the huge amount he commands in the past? Ofcourse not, you give him his talent on assumption of his star quality @ present.

            Hence, the best comparison is the closest present fight which both having 24/7 and commercials.

            Note: Mosely Mayweather promotion was way up in promoting hype and commercials compared to cotto pac. Golden Boy spent a ton of money in commercials and billboards etc. And there numbers where close 1.25 pac, cotto, 1.4 may, mosely.

            Btw, Mayweather and Mosely are both americans who are asking american viewing pubic to pay HBO PPV.

            If pac was an american he could have done even more for sure. In his country alone he shuts down his country literally. No one works, evident that a fighter of his caliber is supported by his own people as Ali was supported by americans, Roy jones, sugar ray, Hagler, Hearns etc.

            knowing these facts and common sense, they both deserve a 50/50 split.

            PPv numbers for the Mayweather vs Mosely garnered 1.4million. 2 americans in their homeland. While Pacman who is a foreigner who fought cotto who is just as popular as mosely got 1.250 million ppv.

            Plus, considering Pac is the fighter of the decade, pound for pound king, and 7 division champ. Pac is definitely giving a lot on the table to make this a PPV success.

            Pac's credentials and Mayweathers credentials are the reason this is suppose to break PPV all time record.

            They need each other: 50/50 is the way to go.

            If Floyd has to be a greedy bastard the most he can ask is 55/45 no more no less. If it's 60/40 he is definitely ducking the fight again plain and simple.

            He is over pricing himself if he asks more than a 55/45 split.

            Common sense should dictate a 50/50 split, but just so it happens 55/45 is fine with me and most fans, more than that is just crazy talk, Boxing fans make this fight happen!

            If Floyd will insist to a 60/40 boxing fans should expose Floyd as the ducker he really is!

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              #76
              Originally posted by Spoon23
              It does, that is why they need each other, 50/50 is what I'm harping coz in order to break the all time ppv number they need each other. 50/50 is the right call coz it is pac and it is may who can make it happen.

              Not one of them can make it on there own to reach 2.4 million up, therefore it should be 50/50 split.

              They need each other to make it a success.

              Clear enough for you?
              my problem was people appreciating Manny demanding more than 50 % against Hatton,
              but would then despise it when it is Mayweather in the situation.
              i just can't stand people's bias towards their favorite fighters

              and now wouldn't you agree that Floyd has the right to ask for more than 50 %?
              is that not understandable?

              because if it was Manny who made more with common opponents against Floyd, as well as their last fights; he would have all the right in the world to ask for more than 50 % if you ask me

              but still, 60 / 40 from Floyd is pushing it
              and 55 / 45 is the most reasonable i can see it.

              but as long as they make this fight, i'm happy

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                #77
                Originally posted by Burnthrust
                floyd should get a bigger split cause he is a bigger ppv attraction.
                Hell no.. Put a poll up asking "Who give you more **** for your PPV buck" and the answer hands down would be Pacman..

                Pacman will give you more **** for your buck..

                Look at this fight with Hatton.. It was only 2rounds but it was action packed..

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                  #78
                  50-50 end of story.. Close Thread..

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                  • Spoon23
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by mr.applesauce
                    my problem was people appreciating Manny demanding more than 50 % against Hatton,
                    but would then despise it when it is Mayweather in the situation.
                    i just can't stand people's bias towards their favorite fighters

                    and now wouldn't you agree that Floyd has the right to ask for more than 50 %?
                    is that not understandable?

                    because if it was Manny who made more with common opponents against Floyd, as well as their last fights; he would have all the right in the world to ask for more than 50 % if you ask me

                    but still, 60 / 40 from Floyd is pushing it
                    and 55 / 45 is the most reasonable i can see it.

                    but as long as they make this fight, i'm happy
                    Huh? Pacman was bigger in popularity than hatton was, and hatton wanted 50-50? Plus the fact pacman was highly decorated already p4p, 4 lineal champ, 5 division champ to add to the negotiations. Infact it should be 60/40 for pac, but pac ain't greedy to ask for a 60/40 split.

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                      #80
                      Also didn't Pac get a bigger split vs DLH than Mayweather?
                      From what i remember DLH made 45 million while Mayweather made 20 mil.

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