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  • TBear
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    #91
    I doubt 70-30 would get Mayweather's name on the contract anyways. But he deserves 50-50.

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    • phook
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      #92
      someone is ducking someone mate and it aint Pacquaio!!

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      • PittyPat
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        #93
        Of course they need each other. If Pacquiao doesn't fight Mayweather, he'll be known as a ducker who was scared to face the undefeated slickster - he'd never be forgiven for it by real boxing fans. Likewise if Mayweather doesn't fight Pacquiao, he'll be known as a ducker who was scared to face the relentless destroying machine - he'd never be forgiven for it by real boxing fans.

        They would be each others' career-defining wins. Between them they have good resumes, but they're both missing that one HUGE name which will set the world alight and remove all doubts of their supremacy. Only nuthuggers would deny that.

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          #94
          yes I say 60/40 is fair,thats what pac gets for stalling for so long. I guess he had to clean his system out.

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          • Spoon23
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            #95
            Originally posted by Low_ki
            yes I say 60/40 is fair,thats what pac gets for stalling for so long. I guess he had to clean his system out.
            wtf, major ***** on the loose lol

            Floyd has been preaching retirement, Floyd preaching 60/40, floyd preaching ost.. And who is delaying.. Oh yea your right its not Floyd

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            • The Big Dunn
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              #96
              The reasons next to "no" have nothing to do with the split of the purse. Let's do some math using the last 3 ppv's for each fighter to see if 60/40 is fair:

              Manny v Cotto 1.25 mil ppv sales
              Manny v. Clottey 750K
              Total 1.95 mil x $49. 95 = $97,402,500/ ($222.275,200)=%43.8

              Floyd v. Marquez 1.1 mil
              floyd v. ssm 1.4
              total 2.5 mil x $49.95= $124,875,000/($222,275,200)*100= %56.2

              $97,402,500+$124,875,000 = $222,275,500 (all fights)


              When you add in the fact that floyd did better at the live gate than Manny in the last 2 fights 60/40 split for floyd is not totally unreasonable. I'm thiniking 55/45 or 54/46 is fair.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Big Dunn
                The reasons next to "no" have nothing to do with the split of the purse. Let's do some math using the last 3 ppv's for each fighter to see if 60/40 is fair:

                Manny v Cotto 1.25 mil ppv sales
                Manny v. Clottey 750K
                Total 1.95 mil x $49. 95 = $97,402,500/ ($222.275,200)=%43.8

                Floyd v. Marquez 1.1 mil
                floyd v. ssm 1.4
                total 2.5 mil x $49.95= $124,875,000/($222,275,200)*100= %56.2

                $97,402,500+$124,875,000 = $222,275,500 (all fights)


                When you add in the fact that floyd did better at the live gate than Manny in the last 2 fights 60/40 split for floyd is not totally unreasonable. I'm thiniking 55/45 or 54/46 is fair.


                50/50 split is the way to go for PAC and MAY


                Pac wasn't a house hold name yet when he fought DLH. It was after beating DLH that made him a popular boxer when he made DLH quit in his stool. Mayweather was already a star when he fought DLH and had fought in american soil in more years than pac.

                It was after DLH that shoot him up as a house hold name. Pac was going up in popularity.

                When Pac fought hatton it was 850k while before that mayweather fought hatton for 900k. (note hatton that time was undefeated so it was more sale able to the viewing public knowing their both undefeated fighting each other.

                When Pac fought Hatton he still did 850k even if Hatton's star power wasn't the same like when he faced Mayweather coz he wasn't undefeated anymore.

                The best way of gauging their populartiy is their present fight that had "24/7" and commercial hype, which was the cotto,pac fight and Mayweather mosely fight.

                You can't pay a hollywood actor a huge talent fee if his star power is waning down. If a holllywood actor was big in the 90's but not anymore at present. Will you still pay him the huge amount he commands in the past? Ofcourse not, you give him his talent on assumption of his star quality @ present.

                Hence, the best comparison is the closest present fight which both having 24/7 and commercials.

                Note: Mosely Mayweather promotion was way up in promoting hype and commercials compared to cotto pac. Golden Boy spent a ton of money in commercials and billboards etc. And there numbers where close 1.25 pac, cotto, 1.4 may, mosely.

                Btw, Mayweather and Mosely are both americans who are asking american viewing pubic to pay HBO PPV.

                If pac was an american he could have done even more for sure. In his country alone he shuts down his country literally. No one works, evident that a fighter of his caliber is supported by his own people as Ali was supported by americans, Roy jones, sugar ray, Hagler, Hearns etc.

                knowing these facts and common sense, they both deserve a 50/50 split.

                PPv numbers for the Mayweather vs Mosely garnered 1.4million. 2 americans in their homeland. While Pacman who is a foreigner who fought cotto who is just as popular as mosely got 1.250 million ppv.

                Plus, considering Pac is the fighter of the decade, pound for pound king, and 7 division champ. Pac is definitely giving a lot on the table to make this a PPV success.

                Pac's credentials and Mayweathers credentials are the reason this is suppose to break PPV all time record.

                They need each other: 50/50 is the way to go.

                If Floyd has to be a greedy bastard the most he can ask is 55/45 no more no less. If it's 60/40 he is definitely ducking the fight again plain and simple.

                He is over pricing himself if he asks more than a 55/45 split.

                Common sense should dictate a 50/50 split, but just so it happens 55/45 is fine with me and most fans, more than that is just crazy talk, Boxing fans make this fight happen!

                If Floyd will insist to a 60/40 boxing fans should expose Floyd as the ducker he really is!

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Big Dunn
                  The reasons next to "no" have nothing to do with the split of the purse. Let's do some math using the last 3 ppv's for each fighter to see if 60/40 is fair:

                  Manny v Cotto 1.25 mil ppv sales
                  Manny v. Clottey 750K
                  Total 1.95 mil x $49. 95 = $97,402,500/ ($222.275,200)=%43.8

                  Floyd v. Marquez 1.1 mil
                  floyd v. ssm 1.4
                  total 2.5 mil x $49.95= $124,875,000/($222,275,200)*100= %56.2

                  $97,402,500+$124,875,000 = $222,275,500 (all fights)


                  When you add in the fact that floyd did better at the live gate than Manny in the last 2 fights 60/40 split for floyd is not totally unreasonable. I'm thiniking 55/45 or 54/46 is fair.
                  PPv numbers for the Mayweather vs Mosely garnered 1.4million. 2 americans in their homeland. While Pacman who is a foreigner who fought cotto (a foreigner as well) who is just as popular as mosely got 1.35 million plus ppv. (there where still 100kppv numbers that had to be add up a few days after the release of the initial tally of 1.25million)

                  So I would say based on popularity their both equals knowing pac cotto are both foreigners and getting those huge numbers.

                  Mayweather keeps on saying it was him not Delahoya who made the 2.4 million record for ppv now we know it was really DELAHOYA who had all the fans- 2.4million. (coz he did only 1.4 with Mosely).

                  Pac Clottey shouldn't be considered for comparing ppv numbers coz:

                  Clottey is not a house hold name and not a marketable fighter even to boxing fans it was Pure Pacquiao who sold that fight.

                  Plus, don't forget that there are "no" 24/7 and huge marketing, commercials for the Pacquiao Clottey fight. Hbo knowing it ain't a super fight.

                  24/7 are done only for super fights:

                  24/7 and commercials where done only for the Mayweather, Mosely and Pacquiao Cotto fight. (more advertising, promos commercials where done in the Mayweather Mosely such as the lame Gladiator commercial)

                  Thus, Pacquiao Cotto and MAyweather Mosely where the super fights to be compared at the present.

                  In terms of Mosely's popularity:

                  Mosely owns the gate for number of attendance in the staple center. It shows how big a draw he is.

                  And Mosely has been in more PPV fights than Cotto

                  and Add pacs resume, P4P, FOTD, 4 lineal champ, 7 division champ etc.. Pac's credentials are stellar.

                  Pac and May just deserve equal sharing.

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                  • Frighteous
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Spoon23
                    wtf, major ***** on the loose lol

                    Floyd has been preaching retirement, Floyd preaching 60/40, floyd preaching ost.. And who is delaying.. Oh yea your right its not Floyd
                    Ariza to press after Pac denied the tests: "Pac doesn't know what he takes."

                    real quote
                    Last edited by Frighteous; 06-21-2010, 09:12 AM.

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                    • Spoon23
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Big Dunn
                      The reasons next to "no" have nothing to do with the split of the purse. Let's do some math using the last 3 ppv's for each fighter to see if 60/40 is fair:

                      Manny v Cotto 1.25 mil ppv sales
                      Manny v. Clottey 750K
                      Total 1.95 mil x $49. 95 = $97,402,500/ ($222.275,200)=%43.8

                      Floyd v. Marquez 1.1 mil
                      floyd v. ssm 1.4
                      total 2.5 mil x $49.95= $124,875,000/($222,275,200)*100= %56.2

                      $97,402,500+$124,875,000 = $222,275,500 (all fights)


                      When you add in the fact that floyd did better at the live gate than Manny in the last 2 fights 60/40 split for floyd is not totally unreasonable. I'm thiniking 55/45 or 54/46 is fair.
                      Answer this simple question.

                      Name a fighter floyd can fight that can break ppv records with him aside from pac?

                      If you found the fighter that can break PPV numbers with him I guess Floyd really deserves 60/40

                      I'll wait for your answer if you found the guy =P

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