no its not fair cus i remember mayweathers last fight he has the biggest hype behind him and GBP value he was exposed to over 4 million PPV buyers.. yet he only pulls in like 1.5 million, he is a cash cow failure
that's like me making a movie with tom cruise and putting 100 million in advertising and production only to pull in 80 million
while pacquiao like the blair witch project movie where it was made with 100k and made over 100 million, pulls in 700k with very minimal advertising and no 24/7 on HBO
pac is the draw here
dumbest post of this whole thread----pac isn't nearly as big as floyd and you know it----floyd's biggest fight sold over a million more ppv buys than manny's-----floyd ****s on manny in every aspect----
Seems like you don't really care if they fight each other.. Doesn't matter? Real boxing fans wants this to happen only a ***** would want this not to happen coz there scared really scared of pac you a *****??
Pac wasn't a house hold name yet when he fought DLH. It was after beating DLH that made him a popular boxer when he made DLH quit in his stool. Mayweather was already a star when he fought DLH and had fought in american soil in more years than pac.
It was after DLH that shoot him up as a house hold name. Pac was going up in popularity.
When Pac fought hatton it was 850k while before that mayweather fought hatton for 900k. (note hatton that time was undefeated so it was more sale able to the viewing public knowing their both undefeated fighting each other.
When Pac fought Hatton he still did 850k even if Hatton's star power wasn't the same like when he faced Mayweather coz he wasn't undefeated anymore.
The best way of gauging their populartiy is their present fight that had "24/7" and commercial hype, which was the cotto,pac fight and Mayweather mosely fight.
You can't pay a hollywood actor a huge talent fee if his star power is waning down. If a holllywood actor was big in the 90's but not anymore at present. Will you still pay him the huge amount he commands in the past? Ofcourse not, you give him his talent on assumption of his star quality @ present.
Hence, the best comparison is the closest present fight which both having 24/7 and commercials.
Note: Mosely Mayweather promotion was way up in promoting hype and commercials compared to cotto pac. Golden Boy spent a ton of money in commercials and billboards etc. And there numbers where close 1.25 pac, cotto, 1.4 may, mosely.
Btw, Mayweather and Mosely are both americans who are asking american viewing pubic to pay HBO PPV.
If pac was an american he could have done even more for sure. In his country alone he shuts down his country literally. No one works, evident that a fighter of his caliber is supported by his own people as Ali was supported by americans, Roy jones, sugar ray, Hagler, Hearns etc.
knowing these facts and common sense, they both deserve a 50/50 split.
You can't pay a hollywood actor a huge talent fee if his star power is waning down. If a holllywood actor was big in the 90's but not anymore at present. Will you still pay him the huge amount he commands in the past? Ofcourse not, you give him his talent on assumption of his star quality @ present.
Hence, the best comparison is the closest present fight which both having 24/7 and commercials.
PPv numbers for the Mayweather vs Mosely garnered 1.4million. 2 americans in their homeland. While Pacman who is a foreigner who fought cotto who is just as popular as mosely got 1.350 including the final 100k count.
Plus, considering Pac is the fighter of the decade, pound for pound king, and 7 division champ. Pac is definitely giving a lot on the table to make this a PPV success.
Pac's credentials and Mayweathers credentials are the reason this is suppose to break PPV all time record.
They need each other: 50/50 is the way to go.
If Floyd has to be a greedy bastard the most he can ask is 55/45 no more no less. If it's 60/40 he is definitely ducking the fight again plain and simple.
He is over pricing himself if he asks more than a 55/45 split.
Common sense should dictate a 50/50 split, but just so it happens 55/45 is fine with me and most fans, more than that is just crazy talk, Boxing fans make this fight happen!
If Floyd will insist to a 60/40 boxing fans should expose Floyd as the ducker he really is!
another dumb ass post, just this time, a long, dumbass post---no matter how long you type bull****, it still makes it bull****----don't try to justify manny's ppv numbers----he was on ppv before he fought oscar----floyd wasn't that big of a star yet by the time he fought oscar----he was in the same boat as manny was---floyd's ppv buys weren't huge by the time he fought oscar----floyd was the p4p number 1 guy, best fighter in the world, and still made less of the purse with oscar coz oscar was the draw----
now floyd is the draw and his ppv buys show this---it's not rocket science----60/40, mayweather---i don't see youu bitching about manny getting a huuge puurse split over cotto or a bigger purse split with hatton----floyd is the bigger draw, he gets the bigger purse---his ppv buys against common opponents overall crushes manny's---not even close----manny's accolades don't mean **** here---yeah, he's considered all of that stuff you mentioned, but his ppv buys are still lower than floyd's----manny and clottey sold 700k, and floyd and shane sold 1.4 million---another crushing defeat for manny----
no excuses---if manny is so big, he would have had higher numbers with clottey----floyd sold over a million ppv buys with a guy who lost to manny twice, came up 2 weight classes and was 35 years old----and this is the so called boring mayweather---manny and jmm couldn't beat that and they fought twice----floyd wins again----this isn't golf--being considered the best doesn't make you a draw----it's your star power that does---
floyd is the much bigger star-----no contest---60/40 floyd, maybe even more---
Dumb *****s. The fight is not happening because of these silly PED **** and PPV ****. How many more roadblocks you want to throw out there to make you realize this is all bs.
Dude, stop associating Pac with Floyd. Floyd and his *****s clearly want none of Pac. Instead, associate him with Hatton or Malignaggi. Or maybe a rematch with Marquez can lighten up these forums a bit.
another dumb ass post, just this time, a long, dumbass post---no matter how long you type bull****, it still makes it bull****----don't try to justify manny's ppv numbers----he was on ppv before he fought oscar----floyd wasn't that big of a star yet by the time he fought oscar----he was in the same boat as manny was---floyd's ppv buys weren't huge by the time he fought oscar----floyd was the p4p number 1 guy, best fighter in the world, and still made less of the purse with oscar coz oscar was the draw----
now floyd is the draw and his ppv buys show this---it's not rocket science----60/40, mayweather---i don't see youu bitching about manny getting a huuge puurse split over cotto or a bigger purse split with hatton----floyd is the bigger draw, he gets the bigger purse---his ppv buys against common opponents overall crushes manny's---not even close----manny's accolades don't mean **** here---yeah, he's considered all of that stuff you mentioned, but his ppv buys are still lower than floyd's----manny and clottey sold 700k, and floyd and shane sold 1.4 million---another crushing defeat for manny----
no excuses---if manny is so big, he would have had higher numbers with clottey----floyd sold over a million ppv buys with a guy who lost to manny twice, came up 2 weight classes and was 35 years old----and this is the so called boring mayweather---manny and jmm couldn't beat that and they fought twice----floyd wins again----this isn't golf--being considered the best doesn't make you a draw----it's your star power that does---
floyd is the much bigger star-----no contest---60/40 floyd, maybe even more---
And yet in my other poll, boxing fans think Floyd wll even go lower in numbers if he fought Clottey. Yeah people with a brain doesn't make sense right? Or is it you who just doesn't realize your a ***** who can't get enough of floyd's **** hehe!
And yet in my other poll, boxing fans think Floyd wll even go lower in numbers if he fought Clottey. Yeah people with a brain doesn't make sense right? Or is it you who just doesn't realize your a ***** who can't get enough of floyd's **** hehe!
You seem to make every EXCUSE in the book why Pac should get 50-50, or even 55-45, except the one that matters.
It doesn't matter if:
Mayweather is american and Pac is not. (Floyd draws bigger numbers).
Pac doesn't speak english well, (Floyd still draws bigger numbers).
Mayweather/Mosley are both Americans. Pac isnt and neither is Cotto and yet they still didnt draw as much...PLUS, Cottos is a bigger draw than Shane.
So explain how FMJ and Pac are comparable, if FMJ can draw bigger numbers fighting a less popular fighter? (Floyd draws bigger numbers)
Pac drew 50k into Dallas stadium. (Floyd drew much less people and drew double the money. Floyd draws bigger numbers).
Could Oscar have broke the PPV record with any other fighter? NO! Does that mean that Floyd deserved 50-50? NO, he didnt. Because Oscar was the bigger draw. He humbled himself and took less, because he knew that he was not the big draw, Oscar was. Pac should do the same.
Any excuse you come up with means nothing unless its the bottom line. WHO HAS THE BIGGER NUMBERS! The reasons why, are irrelevant. Why is this so hard for ANYONE to understand?
You seem to make every EXCUSE in the book why Pac should get 50-50, or even 55-45, except the one that matters.
It doesn't matter if:
Mayweather is american and Pac is not. (Floyd draws bigger numbers).
Pac doesn't speak english well, (Floyd still draws bigger numbers).
Mayweather/Mosley are both Americans. Pac isnt and neither is Cotto and yet they still didnt draw as much...PLUS, Cottos is a bigger draw than Shane.
So explain how FMJ and Pac are comparable, if FMJ can draw bigger numbers fighting a less popular fighter? (Floyd draws bigger numbers)
Pac drew 50k into Dallas stadium. (Floyd drew much less people and drew double the money. Floyd draws bigger numbers).
Could Oscar have broke the PPV record with any other fighter? NO! Does that mean that Floyd deserved 50-50? NO, he didnt. Because Oscar was the bigger draw. He humbled himself and took less, because he knew that he was not the big draw, Oscar was. Pac should do the same.
Any excuse you come up with means nothing unless its the bottom line. WHO HAS THE BIGGER NUMBERS! The reasons why, are irrelevant. Why is this so hard for ANYONE to understand?
It's called logic. Excuse is when it doesn't make sense and tryng to validate your cause. Wether you call it an excuse it doesn't matter this Poll shows boxing fans have spoken 50/50 is the way to go.
Ahh too bad having an upset stomach already? Go wave your mayweather pom poms hehe! Go Floyd go! Your the best Floyd! I'll **** ride you all day everyday! Happy now lol
dumbest post of this whole thread----pac isn't nearly as big as floyd and you know it----floyd's biggest fight sold over a million more ppv buys than manny's-----floyd ****s on manny in every aspect----
Oh yeah when DLH was the cash cow back then.. Oh I get it.. Yea you make so much sense.. Really you do lol
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