GBP expecting 4million and getting 1.4ppv numbers a success?

[oc9979]

WOW! Promoting a fight is free!!?? We must be in paradise! or maybe the world became a better place all of a sudden

Dont you think the tecate, iron man 2, mgm, stub hub, dewalt, and at&t paid a lot of money to have their banners on top of the rings? GBP probably got money out of them to pay for promotion.

[Vito Corleone]

Goodness man, how long have you been following boxing.

1.4 Million buys is beyond a success.

Don't you know?

Only 700K is a success.

Ceilings.

Freddie Roach said that Pac could sell twice as much with Cotto as with Mosley....but somehow, Floyd/Shane outsold Pac/Cotto.

And we all know Cotto was a draw. Michuel had HUGE ratings on HBO this month.

[Spoon23]

the thing is that they invested a lot less than what they made. They did not brake even

It's just an analogy so the ***** would understand my post. I think my post is clear already. Just read it again so you can absorb it clearer.

[Spoon23]

Don't you know?

Only 700K is a success.

Ceilings.

Freddie Roach said that Pac could sell twice as much with Cotto as with Mosley....but somehow, Floyd/Shane outsold Pac/Cotto.

And we all know Cotto was a draw. Michuel had HUGE ratings on HBO this month.

depends on how much money your investing it on. It all depends on how much money you have to throw to invest in a fight.

In this case with Floyd and Shane it was a lot of cash. Promoting the fight was all out. They invested big but they didn't get the returns they wanted which is conservatively 2million up on ppv sales. 1.4 is a disaster if your hoping for 4million..

4 million is ridiculous to expect, but 2million up was really GBP and schaefer's expectation for sure. They failed miserably with there expectations.

[Spoon23]

Dont you think the tecate, iron man 2, mgm, stub hub, dewalt, and at&t paid a lot of money to have their banners on top of the rings? GBP probably got money out of them to pay for promotion.

Yeah some help promote and get advertising fees. But if you think promoting a fight is free then your living in a fantasy world lol Wake-up bro people work for money.. You must be in a bizzaro world.

Promoting a fight needs cold hard cash.. If we will believe in your bizzaro world then anybody can promote a fight even a cheapskate like me lol

Hope your back in reality

[Spoon23]

listen bros.who else has done 1.4 million buys or more??
the hate on floyd is so strong in this place.anything to put him down.lol

There's no hate hear. Just cold hard facts. If your a salesman normally your boss will give you a quota to deliver. It's like your boss is saying you have sell this much or I'm kicking you out.

It's like your boss is saying you have to sell 4million or else if you go lower than that your under performing or losing profit for the company. And 1.4 million is way way of the mark compared to the projected 4million.

If it was in the office place the sales person would either be thrown out of work, demoted or will get a salary deduction for not achieving expectations.

[BigSpell]

Yes it is sucessful. Even the Delahoya vs mayweather and delahoya vs pacman didn't get 4 million. Plus Mayweather and Mosley were supposed guys that couldn't sell 800,000 paperviews by them selves. Plus they are two USA African-American. The States doesn't support there boxer like other countries do.

[Spoon23]

Yes it is sucessful. Even the Delahoya vs mayweather and delahoya vs pacman didn't get 4 million. Plus Mayweather and Mosley were supposed guys that couldn't sell 800,000 paperviews by them selves. Plus they are two USA African-American. The States doesn't support there boxer like other countries do.

oh really, what about the all time greats like Ali, Sugar Ray, Hearns, Marvin all blacks and the list would go on.

Americans support talent, but actually if floyd was more exciting he can even be bigger than Roy Jones but his just a boring fighter that can bring in new fans to his style so he can't sprung up and call his country men to back him up like Pac is to his country.

And you saying DLH Pacman didn't make 4million, Arum and GBP didn't forecast it to go 4million lol..

Schaefer only forecast that ridiculous number (4million)on the Mosely MAyweather fight.

[Spacey1991]

ADP02's analogy:

Expecting 4 million but getting 1.4 million is a success?

Example: If GM car company was expecting (forecasting) sales of 4 million but they only sold 1.4 million cars their stocks would go down NOT up!

We all know they went all out in promotion costs. Evident with the Gladiator commercials bill boards and marketing hype. there was the superbowl promo.. man he was exposed to 100 million people at least and no doubt, besides that there's boxing journalist who find it newsworthy to print him. They really went all out in the marketing of the fight. Transaltion they spend so much and expected more from the fight that even if they don't reach 4million they where expecting at least way over the 1.5million.

Meaning anything less than 1.5mil will either be break even or a loss to there investment.

It's like this, If your projecting a sales of 4million car buys and you only sold 1.3 million cars, with the work force to maintain and a factory to run do you think the company would earn. His stocks will plunge if you know something about biz.

posted by Peyk Peyk:

The promoter’s expectations fell short from their projected profit. What they did was spend more than the required budget to promote the fight but their expectation came up at least 65% short.

If they know beforehand that the fight will flop (based on their expected revenue) then they won't spend that kind of money just to promote the fight. If I'm not mistaken the 24/7 HBO shows was amplified from 5 part series instead of the standard 4 series show. -------


And plz don't say that boxing ain't a business coz boxing is all about money.

I guess Floyd is a cash cow failure don't you think?

So do you guys still think Floyd's fight with Mosely a success?

1.4 million buys is very impressive, especially with what the economies been like recently. If you took at 4 million quote seriously then there must be something wrong with you, seriously.

[Spacey1991]

4 million would just be crazy, I can't believe this guy is biased enough and dislikes Floyd enough to take it seriously and try to use it against him.