GBP expecting 4million and getting 1.4ppv numbers a success?

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  • Jermaine83
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    #91
    Originally posted by Spoon23
    ADP02's analogy:

    Expecting 4 million but getting 1.4 million is a success?

    Example: If GM car company was expecting (forecasting) sales of 4 million but they only sold 1.4 million cars their stocks would go down NOT up!

    We all know they went all out in promotion costs. Evident with the Gladiator commercials bill boards and marketing hype. there was the superbowl promo.. man he was exposed to 100 million people at least and no doubt, besides that there's boxing journalist who find it newsworthy to print him. They really went all out in the marketing of the fight. Transaltion they spend so much and expected more from the fight that even if they don't reach 4million they where expecting at least way over the 1.5million.

    Meaning anything less maybe break even or a loss to there investment.

    It's like this, If your projecting a sales of 4million car buys and you only sold 1.3 million cars, with the work force to maintain and a factory to run do you think the company would earn. His stocks will plunge if you know something about biz.

    posted by Peyk Peyk:

    The promoter’s expectations fell short from their projected profit. What they did was spend more than the required budget to promote the fight but their expectation came up at least 65% short.

    If they know beforehand that the fight will flop (based on their expected revenue) then they won't spend that kind of money just to promote the fight. If I'm not mistaken the 24/7 HBO shows was amplified from 5 part series instead of the standard 4 series show. -------


    And plz don't say that boxing ain't a business coz boxing is all about money.

    I guess Floyd is a cash cow failure don't you think?

    So do you guys still think Floyd's fight with Mosely a success?
    listen bros.who else has done 1.4 million buys or more??
    the hate on floyd is so strong in this place.anything to put him down.lol

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    • Jim Tom
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      #92
      Originally posted by Spoon23
      ADP02's analogy:

      Expecting 4 million but getting 1.4 million is a success?

      Example: If GM car company was expecting (forecasting) sales of 4 million but they only sold 1.4 million cars their stocks would go down NOT up!

      We all know they went all out in promotion costs. Evident with the Gladiator commercials bill boards and marketing hype. there was the superbowl promo.. man he was exposed to 100 million people at least and no doubt, besides that there's boxing journalist who find it newsworthy to print him. They really went all out in the marketing of the fight. Transaltion they spend so much and expected more from the fight that even if they don't reach 4million they where expecting at least way over the 1.5million.

      Meaning anything less maybe break even or a loss to there investment.

      It's like this, If your projecting a sales of 4million car buys and you only sold 1.3 million cars, with the work force to maintain and a factory to run do you think the company would earn. His stocks will plunge if you know something about biz.

      posted by Peyk Peyk:

      The promoter’s expectations fell short from their projected profit. What they did was spend more than the required budget to promote the fight but their expectation came up at least 65% short.

      If they know beforehand that the fight will flop (based on their expected revenue) then they won't spend that kind of money just to promote the fight. If I'm not mistaken the 24/7 HBO shows was amplified from 5 part series instead of the standard 4 series show. -------


      And plz don't say that boxing ain't a business coz boxing is all about money.

      I guess Floyd is a cash cow failure don't you think?

      So do you guys still think Floyd's fight with Mosely a success?
      Didnt Arum expect 4 million ticket sells for Hatton -Pacquiao and when the truth was 800-900k Arum shouted at anyone who wanted the numbers

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      • edgarg
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        #93
        Originally posted by Reloaded
        Nobody thought 4 mill lol , thats just a sales pitch , subliminal message is they all must think this will be great so Im going to buy ,,, it was a great success anything over a mill in boxing is real big .
        It's more of a success if they projected 1 mill and pulled in 1.4 mill, which is what they should have done, if smart.

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          #94
          Originally posted by check hook
          why not??....it seems like a very smart thing to do to generate interest in the fight.

          Irregardless i do not understand the logic of the TS and everyone else arguing with him. Does anyone here think Pac vs Floyd will do 4 million PPV buys?? What about 3 million?? I have my doubts as to whether Pac vs Floyd will even break the record set by ODLH and Mayweather.
          yes...yes...yes! very smart thing to do. mayweather-moslye is beiing hyped so much that even schaefer believed it could generate 4m ppv.

          there are reasons why he believe that: both are americans, floyd made a good build up to hype the fight, etc.

          with the hype, including the huge paid LONG minutes of advertisement, i believe that it will surpass the floyd-dlh ppv with a great number. that it could generate 2m (so laugh at me, if i believe they can generate that big..but blame it on floyd's team for the hype).

          now, do u have the fact how much did they spend for the fight and how much they earned from the fight? if not u c. hook is just assuming too. when in fact the TS has his assumption based on schaefer's estimate (which we do not know if he is hyping or he really believe that).

          while u r just basing ur assumption that schaefer's estimation is just unbelievable and only to generate interest.

          btw, i wanna bet with u all my points here that floyd-pac will surpass the dlh-floyd fight. I WANNA DARE YOU CHECKHOOK! CALL?

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            #95
            Originally posted by -Bloody KJ-
            It was against Mosley. He's not a draw. Mosley highest PPV sales was 900k with DLH.

            1.4 is Mosley's highest ever because of Mayweather and that will stay as his highest. Mayweather on the other hand, his highest is 2.4Mill and it is possible that if May-Pac happens it can exceed DLH-May but as the fight gets closer the more I doubt it. It would be cool to be around the around when the two highest ever PPV happens though.
            when those PPV's took place both times and economic situation were different, with less money around as well as PPV being only mildly popular. It was really only building up into being a mega-business. On top of that the 24/7 was either in it's infancy or not yet arrived. All the above have a huge effect.

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              #96
              Originally posted by Jakutindi Wauya
              Didnt Arum expect 4 million ticket sells for Hatton -Pacquiao and when the truth was 800-900k Arum shouted at anyone who wanted the numbers
              wow..that's a story. do u have a link, i wanna read it. thanks.

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                #97
                If I said the sky was falling would you believe that too?

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                • Spoon23
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by MayMafia
                  Promotions and heavy advertising is free!!!!!


                  So Golden boy spent nothing to promote the Mayweather fight so its obvious that Mayweather/Mosley made more money than Pac/Clottey and Pac/Cotto where promotions and advertising was practically nill....

                  Mayweather is the greatest!!!!
                  WOW! Promoting a fight is free!!?? We must be in paradise! or maybe the world became a better place all of a sudden

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                  • Spoon23
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Jakutindi Wauya
                    Didnt Arum expect 4 million ticket sells for Hatton -Pacquiao and when the truth was 800-900k Arum shouted at anyone who wanted the numbers
                    Geez pure fabrication from the ***** here. When you guys can't defend the thread you go on to create a make believe world hahaha! How low can you go lol.. Arum never said anything like that. Only Richard Schaefer of the GBP did that.

                    You make it sound it is the truth. Geez fabrication is a fellony my man.

                    If you want us to believe your lies give proof to your testimony if not your a lame tard who got owned again hehehe!

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                    • oc9979
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Spoon23
                      I'll make it simple for you. If you invested 200million bucks from all the marketing investment commercials 24/7 and you sold 1.4million ppv which only profited around 200 million.

                      Answer this?

                      Do you still consider 1.4million ppv buys a success if they broke even in the cost of making the fight. Remember they projected 4million buys. Which means they went all out in promoting the fight.
                      the thing is that they invested a lot less than what they made. They did not brake even
                      Last edited by oc9979; 06-19-2010, 08:04 AM.

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