GBP expecting 4million and getting 1.4ppv numbers a success?

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  • Spoon23
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    GBP expecting 4million and getting 1.4ppv numbers a success?

    ADP02's analogy:

    Expecting 4 million but getting 1.4 million is a success?

    Example: If GM car company was expecting (forecasting) sales of 4 million but they only sold 1.4 million cars their stocks would go down NOT up!

    We all know they went all out in promotion costs. Evident with the Gladiator commercials bill boards and marketing hype. there was the superbowl promo.. man he was exposed to 100 million people at least and no doubt, besides that there's boxing journalist who find it newsworthy to print him. They really went all out in the marketing of the fight. Transaltion they spend so much and expected more from the fight that even if they don't reach 4million they where expecting at least way over the 1.5million mark.

    Meaning anything less than 1.5mil will either be break even or a loss to there investment.

    It's like this, If your projecting a sales of 4million car buys and you only sold 1.3 million cars, with the work force to maintain and a factory to run do you think the company would earn. His stocks will plunge if you know something about biz.

    posted by Peyk Peyk:

    The promoter’s expectations fell short from their projected profit. What they did was spend more than the required budget to promote the fight but their expectation came up at least 65% short.

    If they know beforehand that the fight will flop (based on their expected revenue) then they won't spend that kind of money just to promote the fight. If I'm not mistaken the 24/7 HBO shows was amplified from 5 part series instead of the standard 4 series show. -------

    Of course Mayweather and Mosely still got paid big, but I'm sure the promoters are getting the short end of the stick. For all the trouble and the huge cost of hyping this fight they fell really short of there presumed expectations.

    4m is not really realistic, but I'm sure they where targeting 2million up, therefore it is a flop for the promoters who also want to earn for all the effort and cost promoting it. Knowing Floyd, GBP just got chump change for there effort in promoting this fight.

    Another analogy:

    If your a salesman normally your boss will give you a quota to deliver. It's like your boss is saying you haveto sell this much or I'm kicking you out.

    It's like your boss is saying you have to sell 4million or else if you go lower than 1.5 million your under performing or losing profit for the company. And 1.4 million is way way of the mark compared to the projected 4million.

    If it was in the office place the sales person would either be thrown out of work, demoted or will get a salary deduction for not achieving expectations. In other words the salesman was a big disappointment.

    And plz don't say that boxing ain't a business coz boxing is all about money.

    So in your opinion in terms of promoters making money, do you guys still think Floyd's fight with Mosely a success?
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    yes, it was still a success
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    no, it was a flap knowing they invested a lot and didn't get the expected outcome
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    Last edited by Spoon23; 06-20-2010, 08:22 AM.
  • B.U.R.N.E.R
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    Goodness man, how long have you been following boxing.

    1.4 Million buys is beyond a success. Do you have any idea at just how good those numbers are? Especially in the streaming age.

    Your analogy is flawed.

    If GM expected 4 Mil and got 1.4 instead. When 1.4 is one of the greatest numbers ever? How is that NOT a success?
    Last edited by B.U.R.N.E.R; 06-19-2010, 12:28 AM.

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    • Spoon23
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      Originally posted by No Ceilings
      Goodness man, how long have you been following boxing.

      1.4 Million buy is beyond a success. Do you have any idea at just how good those numbers are? Especially in the streaming age.

      Your analogy is flawed.

      If GM expected 4 Mil and got 1.4 instead. When 1.4 is one of the greatest numbers ever? How is that NOT a success?
      I'll make it simple for you. If you invested 200million bucks from all the marketing investment commercials 24/7 and you sold 1.4million ppv which only profited around 200 million.

      Answer this?

      Do you still consider 1.4million ppv buys a success if they broke even in the cost of making the fight. Remember they projected 4million buys. Which means they went all out in promoting the fight.

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      • Scott9945
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        #4
        Everyone involved made money, so it was a success. It really is that simple.

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        • Reloaded
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          Nobody thought 4 mill lol , thats just a sales pitch , subliminal message is they all must think this will be great so Im going to buy ,,, it was a great success anything over a mill in boxing is real big .

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            #6
            Originally posted by No Ceilings
            Goodness man, how long have you been following boxing.

            1.4 Million buy is beyond a success. Do you have any idea at just how good those numbers are? Especially in the streaming age.

            Your analogy is flawed.

            If GM expected 4 Mil and got 1.4 instead. When 1.4 is one of the greatest numbers ever? How is that NOT a success?

            Not when your expectations were to sell 4 million PPVs..... When your forecast is not met it's bad all around. Your value/stock goes down somewhat since this commodity can't do what's expected.

            If Tom Cruise movies expect to generate $200 million but they only get $50 million and "Ceiling" who is in charge of that department says, "It's all cool folks. You know with that internet and pirating, that 50 mill is real good.... really!"

            You would be fired from your job Ceilings!

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            • B.U.R.N.E.R
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              Originally posted by Spoon23
              I'll make it simple for you. If you invested 200million bucks from all the marketing investment commercials 24/7 and you sold 1.4million ppv which only profited around 200 million.

              Answer this?

              Do you still consider 1.4million ppv buys a success if they broke even in the cost of making the fight. Remember they projected 4million buys. Which means they went all out in promoting the fight.
              Where in Gods name did you get that they spent 200 Million promotion?

              lmfao

              Just because they expect 3 Million buys doesnt mean they are trying to make up for promotional spending. It was Schafer throwing a number out there to hype and help sell the fight.

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                Fellas ya'll dont have to explain that 1.4 M is a success, T.S. just hating, its what they do 'round here.

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                • B.U.R.N.E.R
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by ADP02
                  Not when your expectations were to sell 4 million PPVs..... When your forecast is not met it's bad all around. Your value/stock goes down somewhat since this commodity can't do what's expected.

                  If Tom Cruise movies expect to generate $200 million but they only get $50 million and "Ceiling" who is in charge of that department says, "It's all cool folks. You know with that internet and pirating, that 50 mill is real good.... really!"

                  You would be fired from your job Ceilings!
                  When 50 Million is still one of the greatest numbers ever?



                  Your analogies suck bro.

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                  • -Spinal-
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                    It was against Mosley. He's not a draw. Mosley highest PPV sales was 900k with DLH.

                    1.4 is Mosley's highest ever because of Mayweather and that will stay as his highest. Mayweather on the other hand, his highest is 2.4Mill and it is possible that if May-Pac happens it can exceed DLH-May but as the fight gets closer the more I doubt it. It would be cool to be around the around when the two highest ever PPV happens though.

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