why the hell is manny accepting 14 days when that offer has been long gone already???

[Horus]

I'm saying this is what floyd wanted. Comprende? Pac is giving in to Floyd's demands and there is no reason for this fight not to be accepted at this point.

Personally I think Floyd will accept, all I'm saying is if he doesn't, then we know.

Answer the question if you dont mind.

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So by your logic, Manny didnt want the fight the first time they tryed to make it because he turned down the 14 day offer.?????

[icebergisonfire]

You do see the big difference here dont you? Individual riders are not the ones implementing the better testing.

That's not the point, you, with your own words admitted it was better. Why should Floyd settle for 3 star testing where there is 5 star testing out there. The onus is on the NASC to improve their standards, not for Floyd to forego his health and wait. Your health is your responsibility, not any commissions. Not Floyd's fault the NASC's head is deep in the sand.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Why didn't he take that stand in the beginning and NOT agree? That makes ZERO sense.

maybe because, like most of us, he thought he could find a compromise to make the fight happen?


if PAC didnt want the fight, he could have easily told Floyd, 'no testing period' and it would have been dead right then and there

[IMDAZED]

nah son, you're completely generalizing and placing me into a group with certain members and putting words in my mouth.

At the end I said they, both camps, should have met somewhere in the middle of that (like 16-17 days) and that both camps were at fault for the fight falling through. You can dig up old quotes if you want that's what I said. I also stated it was probably more to do with Bob Arum & Golden Boy feuding and how both camps used the media incorrectly more so than the actual cut off date that killed the fight.

Somewhere in the middle? Isn't that what Floyd did?

Floyd: 0 Days

Manny: 30 days

Floyd: 14 days

That's a compromise. Now we should compromise the compromise? Why? WHAT THE **** IS MANNY PACQUIAO'S ISSUE WITH BEING SUBJECT TO MORE STRINGENT TESTING MEASURES??

[KnockoutKings]

Nothing wrong with ensuring your on an even playing field mate, no matter how good you are, its a rough enough sport as it is... its okay people saying he should forget the extra drug testing and just fight him, but we aren't getting in the ring... he is, so ensuring no foul play is in order should be considered fine IMO.

Lmao you act like Manny would kill Floyd without Ost. By that logic, Oscar, Hatton, and cotto should be dead by now.

[V.WEBB]

I am just being agreeable to both parties. 24 days was good for me but floyd said he'd do 14, manny said he'd do 14.....Lets get it on!!!!!

Don't act as if they said this at the same time. Let's be real here. These comments are MONTHS apart. Floyd offered the 14 days MONTHS ago. The logical question is, why didn't Manny accept then? Two whole months ago Floyd said that the 14 days isn't on the table anymore. Do you see how that works?

Me, Coach Webb, is fine with 14 days, but I realize that isn't Floyd's offer anymore. Let's see how negotiations shake out.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Somewhere in the middle? Isn't that what Floyd did?

Floyd: 0 Days

Manny: 30 days

Floyd: 14 days

That's a compromise. Now we should compromise the compromise? Why? WHAT THE **** IS MANNY PACQUIAO'S ISSUE WITH BEING SUBJECT TO MORE STRINGENT TESTING MEASURES??

They know all the lames excuses Pacquiao come out with. So they'll ignore that question

[johncods]

****in *****s!!! the whole universe want's to see this fight, you ****** just wanna suck on floyds **** and be like " No baby he disrespected you the 1st time, throw another hurdle to stop the fight "!!!!

Do ya'll want this fight to happen or not???

[ИATAS]

Somewhere in the middle? Isn't that what Floyd did?

Floyd: 0 Days

Manny: 30 days

Floyd: 14 days

That's a compromise. Now we should compromise the compromise? Why? WHAT THE **** IS MANNY PACQUIAO'S ISSUE WITH BEING SUBJECT TO MORE STRINGENT TESTING MEASURES??

The 30 days was Bob Arum first saying they would take 3 tests, not random OST's.

Once they agreed to that they said they wanted a cutoff, 24 days. This was during the mediation. Pac said 24 days, or 20, Floyd wouldn't move from 14.

And here are some old quotes of mine:

dawg, I'm so tired of going back & forth on this... If you cant see that it took both sides to fuuck this up I don't know what else to tell you. Floyd could have caved in more and so could have pac. I'm for the record blaming both parties, not one or the other. They both fuucked this up, period.

exactly, big fuucking deal like you just said, so compromise. You got two sides asking for ****, meet in the middle.

I would take 14 days too.

On the other hand Floyd started this whole mess with the random testing in the first place, Pac even agreeing to them at all in itself is a compromise.

Both sides are faulty here, BOTH SIDES.

Let's be real - all sides are going to come out looking bad if this fight doesn't happen, not just floyd.

[AKATheMack]

That's not the point, you, with your own words admitted it was better. Why should Floyd settle for 3 star testing where there is 5 star testing out there. The onus is on the NASC to improve their standards, not for Floyd to forego his health and wait. Your health is your responsibility, not any commissions. Not Floyd's fault the NASC's head is deep in the sand.

When all his other 41 fights have been 1 star Id say 3 star is a good improvement. Your health is your responsibility, but unless you feel Pac could seriously injure Floyd in this fight its a silly argument. The best version of Floyd beats the best version of Manny, so I cant agree that he honestly fears for his health. 14 days was good enough for his health a few months back if Manny is willing to accept it the fight should be made.