why the hell is manny accepting 14 days when that offer has been long gone already???

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  • F l i c k e r
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    #221
    Originally posted by nelsoncm
    So Floyd dictates the testing now? I didn't know Floyd was more powerful than any boxing commision.


    I would think so.... Isn't he the one who wanted it in the first place?

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    • VERDUGO
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      #222
      Who cares about the past.

      What matters now is that PAc has agreed to Mayweather's demands.
      It's now up to Mayweather to prove to the fans if he really does want to fight the PAcman.
      There shouldn't be any problem now.

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      • thatnickuh
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        #223
        Originally posted by AKATheMack
        No, but the people screaming take the tests or you're dirty are going to find a reason to hate regardless, and actually by not agreeing to the tests hes not allowing haters(Mayweather camp) to run his boxing career.

        If he honestly believes the tests will weaken him whether physically or mentally why would he agree to take them when he's likely to lose when hes at 100%?


        He said he only wants 1 more fight so thats irrelevant.

        He could not take the fight and still possibly go down as the best of this era so thats not really an incentive is it? Again he said 1 more fight so a rematch and trilogy are ****** to bring up.


        Its only dumb if you have predetermined responses when you stop and think it actually makes sense.
        I don't think that the Mayweather's are trying to run Pacquiao's career, I think that they are trying to ensure that he's clean when he gets in the ring with their fighter because they suspect he may be dirty. I doubt that they have anything to do with Pacquiao or his career after the 2 meet. You have a flawed outlook on trhe situation. Refusing the tests hasn't helped Pacquiao, it has hurt him. Pacquiao's actions have done nothing but convince people to look at him su****iously who wouldn't have otherwise. I'm one of those people.

        I don't believe that he thinks that the tests will weaken him, I think that is a BS excuse. Why do you believe it? Simply because Pacquiao said it? Where are your questions for Pacquiao in all of this? Why don't you questrion why he believes that he will still be effected days after giving blood for a test, even tho that's nonsense? Why don't you question why he didn't accept the original 14 day cut off offer if a threat of being weakened was the real obstacle stopping him from taking the fight? Why don't you question why he's reportedly now agreeing to the same 14 day cut-off offer three months after Mayweather said thjat it was off of the table when he walked away to fight Clottey?

        Sorry if I don't take retirement talk from fighters still in their prime seriously. I remeber Mayweather actually going through with the whole process of retiring only to come back, as we all knew that he would.

        Blindly accepting retirement talk from Pacquiao at this point is ****** and evidence of how biased a lot of you are. You just accept whatever the guy says without using your God given brain to think for yourself. The chance of beating an undefeated Mayweather is definmitely an incentive, I don't really undestand where you're coming from. Are you an objective boxing fan or a scared Pacquiao groupie? Why in the world are you trying to argue me down that taking the tests and and trying to beat Mayweather isn't worth it for Pacquiao? You're trying to justrify him ducking the fight because of haters and silly beliefs about being blood drained(among other excuses). Seriously?

        Nah, makes no sense. Maybe that's becauise I'm not biased towards Pacquiao.

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        • AKATheMack
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          #224
          Originally posted by thatnickuh
          I don't think that the Mayweather's are trying to run Pacquiao's career, I think that they are trying to ensure that he's clean when he gets in the ring with their fighter because they suspect he may be dirty. I doubt that they have anything to do with Pacquiao or his career after the 2 meet. You have a flawed outlook on trhe situation. Refusing the tests hasn't helped Pacquiao, it has hurt him. Pacquiao's actions have done nothing but convince people to look at him su****iously who wouldn't have otherwise. I'm one of those people.
          Actually Mayweathers camp alleging he was dirty does affect his career and also made it less likely for him to take the tests.
          I don't believe that he thinks that the tests will weaken him, I think that is a BS excuse. Why do you believe it? Simply because Pacquiao said it? Where are your questions for Pacquiao in all of this? Why don't you questrion why he believes that he will still be effected days after giving blood for a test, even tho that's nonsense? Ive given been blood before and been weak the spot I gave it. Matter of fact the Dr. said word for word That I'd be sore for a couple days. as Why don't you question why he didn't accept the original 14 day cut off offer if a threat of being weakened was the real obstacle stopping him from taking the fight? I do 100% question him and it makes him look like a bull****ter. Why don't you question why he's reportedly now agreeing to the same 14 day cut-off offer three months after Mayweather said thjat it was off of the table when he walked away to fight Clottey?

          Sorry if I don't take retirement talk from fighters still in their prime seriously. I remeber Mayweather actually going through with the whole process of retiring only to come back, as we all knew that he would.
          Because Floyd is also a Congressman, so its the exact same scenario, right? When Manny has recently started as second career as a politician his retirement talk makes more sense than Floyds did.
          Blindly accepting retirement talk from Pacquiao at this point is ****** and evidence of how biased a lot of you are. You just accept whatever the guy says without using your God given brain to think for yourself. The chance of beating an undefeated Mayweather is definmitely an incentive, I don't really undestand where you're coming from. He can't beat Mayweather, theres no incentive.Are you an objective boxing fan or a scared Pacquiao groupie? Why in the world are you trying to argue me down that taking the tests and and trying to beat Mayweather isn't worth it for Pacquiao? Manny taking the tests and losing proves nothing. Hes going to lose and it doesnt clear up anything about whether hes used PEDs or not.You're trying to justrify him ducking the fight because of haters and silly beliefs about being blood drained(among other excuses). Seriously? I justify him not bending to Floyds demands, yes. Floyd acts like he has more leverage than he does. He alone can not demand the testing protocols for the entire sport of boxing.

          Nah, makes no sense. Maybe that's becauise I'm not biased towards Pacquiao.
          Me either, but you are most certainly biased towards Floyd

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          • badecisioncotto
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            #225
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            23 pgs im not about to read through that. basically manny agreed to the 14 day thing only after floyd was done with it. floyd only brought up the 14 day because manny wouldnt agree to upto the day after the fight as a compromise. now all of a sudden he agrees when arum is around him of course, whatever. unless ***** intervenes this fight is not getting made, because arum is not going to allow it!

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            • davidoff
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              #226
              If 14 days was good enough to satisfy Floyd that Manny wasn't on something, then surely 14 days should still be fine.

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              • QADASHBANYAH1
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                #227
                Originally posted by ИATAS206
                If Floyd doesn't accept 14 days, he doesn't want the fight, period.

                Are you serious the offer is off the table? LMAO, negotiations haven't even started.
                THAT WAS LAST GO AROUND, LAST GO AROUND FLOYD BENT HIS DEMANDS AND OFFERED MANNY 14 DAYS,WILL THE TESTING NOT EFFECT HIS TRAINING NOW? IS THIS MUTHA****A ABOUT TO GET IN TEH HYPERBOLIC TIME CHAMBER OR SOME ****??

                MANNY DIDNT WANT TO DISRUPT TRAINING, SO WHAT MADE HIM CHANGE HIS MOND, DID GOD COME TALK TO HIM AND SAY TAKE THE TEST 14 DAYS IS MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME, AND I will ensure that you recover quickly??

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                • QADASHBANYAH1
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                  #228
                  Originally posted by davidoff
                  if 14 days was good enough to satisfy floyd that manny wasn't on something, then surely 14 days should still be fine.
                  no the question should be why is manny now accepting something he just turned down mere months ago, because of beliefs??

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                  • The Beatles
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                    #229
                    If 14 days is fair enough for Manny now why wasn't it fair enough the 1st Time around?

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                    • davidoff
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                      #230
                      Originally posted by QADASHBANYAH1
                      no the question should be why is manny now accepting something he just turned down mere months ago, because of beliefs??
                      I'm a fan of boxing, so from my perspective I just want the fight to go ahead.

                      I guess if you've got your mouth around the nuts of your favourite fighter then you'll keep twisting the point in issue like you just have.

                      The issue Floyd has was the testing. 14 days was previously fine with him, so in the absence of a new scientific paper saying 14 days is very unreliable, then, ipso facto, it should still be fine.

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