why the hell is manny accepting 14 days when that offer has been long gone already???

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Why would he need to compromise on the drug testing in the first place?

because they were trying to find a middle ground? it was a floyd request...you didnt think a diva like PAC was just gonna give in right?


besides, didnt you vote that a middle ground was fair?

[AKATheMack]

Exactly....its fuckin drug testing. You can't compromise a drug test just like you can't compromise a condom.

If I hadn't been able to convince girls that I was the pull out king my teenage years wouldn't have been nearly as memorable. So you can most definitely compromise on a condom.

[icebergisonfire]

When all his other 41 fights have been 1 star Id say 3 star is a good improvement. Your health is your responsibility, but unless you feel Pac could seriously injure Floyd in this fight its a silly argument. The best version of Floyd beats the best version of Manny, so I cant agree that he honestly fears for his health. 14 days was good enough for his health a few months back if Manny is willing to accept it the fight should be made.

Floyd stated 14 days before he went through the procedure. It's not that big of a deal to take OST when they come to you. You don't have to go to them. They do their thing, and as shown in 24/7, they will wait until you have to take a piss. I don't see anything intrusive about it. So, why compromise on 14 days when Floyd himself has subjected himself to up to the fight OST and is willing to do it again? It's not about feeling Pacquaio could hurt him as I have stated plenty times on this board that Floyd would embarrass him, I just want a clean fight. That really should be the least of our worries in the negotiations. Given the acclaim that this fight will garner, why are we asking for 14 days. Sauerland in Germany doesn't do 14 days. The Olympic commitee doesn't do 14 days. Why? It's because it compromises the quality of the testing. A person, especially in a contact sport, can't look me in the face that say that they'd rather not know if a person was clean. Standards improve all the time, and just because the NASC is slow to improve, doesn't mean that boxers that are mindful about their health shouldn't be. We hear Floyd brag all the time about not being hit and bloodied so getting hit by a roided up boxer is going to be of some concern to him. 14 days is a farce.

[Doctor_Tenma]

The 30 days was Bob Arum first saying they would take 3 tests, not random OST's.

Manny Pacquiao: I have offered to give a blood sample the day of the announcement of the fight at the Press Release. I have offered to give a blood sample 30 days before the fight. I am willing to give blood immediately after the fight is over inside my dressing room. I am also willing to give urine tests at anytime any where everyday leading up to the fight. The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight.

[V.WEBB]

because they were trying to find a middle ground? it was a floyd request...you didnt think a diva like PAC was just gonna give in right?


besides, didnt you vote that a middle ground was fair?

Right, they were trying to find ground after Manny tried to change the whole protocol!

Yes, I did vote that 14 days was fair (and still feel that way)...heck I actually went with Roach's 5 day offer. However, I can't understand why he didn't just agree to the 14 days WHEN it was offered. Two months ago, Mayweather said that the 14 days was off the table. And Arum said they wouldn't negotiate in the media...well...that wasn't true.

[The Gambler1981]

because they were trying to find a middle ground? it was a floyd request...you didnt think a diva like PAC was just gonna give in right?


besides, didnt you vote that a middle ground was fair?

That is why you don't mess around with this topic because fighting it only makes you look bad and makes the other guys position stronger the second time around.

This is not an extention of past negotiations if he is offering 14 now Floyd/usada would say 0 so the new middle would be 7 not 14~

If Manny agrees to 7 the fight probably gets made.

[cortdawg25]

what is the point in making a compromise to get a deal done by a deadline to only offer the same deal months later after the deadline.


floyd always wanted up to the fight, he bent to 14 days which was more than fair and he was rejected. Now the midget wants to come back to the table and pick up where they left off. This is a new deal and that deal is long gone.

That's like me going to Walmart on black friday and seeing a HDTV 3D 55In for $1100 and i come back on New Years Eve and see that the TV is now $2,000. Then i complain that I want the Black friday deal....well that deal is gone BUDDY!

[Rudie Cant Fail]

14 days aint good enough now?.....lol.......no wonder floyd gets no respect!

I know,it just seems like floyds fans dont want this fight to start happening. I cracks me up,these little f.uckers even start shouting about whats on the table and whats not as if they are part of Floyd's negotiating team. Arseholes,the lot of them.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Right, they were trying to find ground after Manny tried to change the whole protocol!

Yes, I did vote that 14 days was fair (and still feel that way)...heck I actually went with Roach's 5 day offer. However, I can't understand why he didn't just agree to the 14 days WHEN it was offered. Two months ago, Mayweather said that the 14 days was off the table. And Arum said they wouldn't negotiate in the media...well...that wasn't true.

well, he's agreeing to it now...


we ok with the 'offer expired' excuse?

[AKATheMack]

Floyd stated 14 days before he went through the procedure. It's not that big of a deal to take OST when they come to you. You don't have to go to them. They do their thing, and as shown in 24/7, they will wait until you have to take a piss. I don't see anything intrusive about it. So, why compromise on 14 days when Floyd himself has subjected himself to up to the fight OST and is willing to do it again? It's not about feeling Pacquaio could hurt him as I have stated plenty times on this board that Floyd would embarrass him, I just want a clean fight. That really should be the least of our worries in the negotiations. Given the acclaim that this fight will garner, why are we asking for 14 days. Sauerland in Germany doesn't do 14 days. The Olympic commitee doesn't do 14 days. Why? It's because it compromises the quality of the testing. A person, especially in a contact sport, can't look me in the face that say that they'd rather not know if a person was clean. Standards improve all the time, and just because the NASC is slow to improve, doesn't mean that boxers that are mindful about their health shouldn't be. We hear Floyd brag all the time about not being hit and bloodied so getting hit by a roided up boxer is going to be of some concern to him. 14 days is a farce.

Nevada doesnt do OSTs, California doesnt do OSTs, Texas doesn't do OSTs which is why there is a reason for a compromise. All fighters may wish to know whether their opponent is on something however Floyd is the only holding up a mega fight over it. Again being hit by a roided up boxer is concern for any boxer, but I have Floyd as the betting favorite regardless and he initially offered the 14 days I cant condone the fight not being made if Manny accepts 14 days now.