why the hell is manny accepting 14 days when that offer has been long gone already???

[DiLLiNGER]

Common Paccy take the test..we all know what your trainer said before you fought de la hoya <<< couldn't pull the trigger anymore and what about cotto <<< shot fighter and what about clottey << tailor made for us because he doesn't fight back...see how his own trainer is telling the truth but yet these fools believe everything he says and does ..

This is your chance paccy to fight a solid fighter a fighter you know would beat you...well for 40 million dollars you are not willing to take the test???? You are a joke paccy and it saddens me that your foolish fans still think that you belong on the top..I can name 5 fighters who are still active who deserve to be in front of you and I'm sure these people have nothing to hide.

[AKATheMack]

Ehh, you try to sound neutral but your partiality isn't hard to recognize. You say that there is much more upside for Mayweather to drop the tests than there is for Pacquiao to take them, but common sense says that it's the exact opposite. There is much more upside for Pacquiao to take the tests, assuming he's clean(If he's dirty then **** him, he's a cheater who should be banned from the ring). You said it yourself, Mayweather is expected to beat Pacquiao. Pacquiao would go in the ring as an underdog against a guy who has watched him fight and thinks that he's so good that he's taking PEDs. Even if he took the tests and lost the fight(as expected), he'd still be looked at with great respect. If he won, he'd be looked at as the greatest boxer of his era by a lot of people. Not to mention he'd be collecting $30-40 million as a cherry on top(with a guarantee to make just as much if not more in the rematch).

Mayweathjer gains little by beating Pacquiao but another huge payday. People here avoid the truth like it's the plague. If he outboxes Pacquiao then it's simply on to the next guy for his critics.

He would be looked at as a cheater who lost because of his inability to roid. Check out Teddy Atlas comments on Mosley if Im lying. He wont get respect unless he takes the tests and beats Floyd which isnt going to happen. Considering Floyd only fights for the money of course he wont gain anything other than a huge paycheck, but then again thats all he wants.

[F l i c k e r]

i guess team pac changed their minds just like how the team mayweather changed their minds.

I don't care if he changes his mind. I think 14 days is good enough. Floyd should jump at this opportunity to get the fight sealed.

Now it's just a matter of calling Pacquiao's bluff or not. By not, I mean he really does go through with the fight.

[thatnickuh]

He would be looked at as a cheater who lost because of his inability to roid. Check out Teddy Atlas comments on Mosley if Im lying. He wont get respect unless he takes the tests and beats Floyd which isnt going to happen. Considering Floyd only fights for the money of course he wont gain anything other than a huge paycheck, but then again thats all he wants.

Since when does Teddy Atlas represent the masses? And if he's clean, and scared to take the tests and get in the ring with Mayweather because some people might think that he only lost because he couldn't juice, then he's a Puss See. Why would that be a legit excuse to you? He's supposed to be a "warrior", right? Besides, that reason is illogical. You just said it yourself, Mayweather is expected to beat Pacquiao. If he were to win, why would the masses assume that the reason was Pacquiao not being able to juice? Atlas made his assumption because Mosley has admitted to PED use in the past. Pacquiao has made no such admission.

[El Jesus]

The sheer amounts of ******ity seeping from this thread is dumfounding. I"ll remain on the sideline though, as I no longer care to debate with individuals who's IQ aligns with the size of their penises.

I will say this though. I find it amazing that Floyd hasn't said a word about a potential Pacquiao bout since the Mosely fight. He isn't negotiating through the media, we haven't found him in every other interview throwing around Pacquiao's name, etc. He's been silent. He mentioned months ago that the 14 day cutoff was no longer on the table, that Pac had his chance and ran. Now all of a sudden, 4 months after negotiations fell through, Pac is suddenly cool with 14 days, After Mayweather's taken it off the table? If you don't see the irony in that, you're insane.

This sums it up.

Mayweather hasnt said anything...at all. All we have gotten is Ellerbe saying he wasnt thinking about pacquiao and thats it.

I see pac and his team playing the same ****** ass game as last time, 2 weeks ago it was 24 days, now its 14, these guys are negotiating amongst themselves.

What is there to discuss? Everyone in this thread has had their stance dug in since this whole thing started.

The only person i have seen really make a relevant change is IMDAZED, who basically used to tear down most mayweather fans with ease, but he agrees with the testing, and now, of course hes a "*****'.

thats pretty much the schoolyard logic that most of you understand. You cant simply agree with something without being one of the two.

[AKATheMack]

Since when does Teddy Atlas represent the masses? And if he's clean, and scared to take the tests and get in the ring with Mayweather because some people might think that he only lost because he couldn't juice, then he's a Puss See. Why would that be a legit excuse to you? He's supposed to be a "warrior", right? Besides, that reason is illogical. You just said it yourself, Mayweather is expected to beat Pacquiao. If he were to win, why would the masses assume that the reason was Pacquiao not being able to juice? Atlas made his assumption because Mosley has admitted to PED use in the past. Pacquiao has made no such admission.

I didnt say he was scared for any reason I said why would he accept tests that are not beneficial for him personally?It wouldnt be the masses it would be the same idiots who accuse him now without any reason to do so. The same exact people who accuse him for not taking the tests would say he lost because he couldnt juice, its just in a haters nature to hate.

[thatnickuh]

I didnt say he was scared for any reason I said why would he accept tests that are not beneficial for him personally?It wouldnt be the masses it would be the same idiots who accuse him now without any reason to do so. The same exact people who accuse him for not taking the tests would say he lost because he couldnt juice, its just in a haters nature to hate.

So, you justify Pacquiao allowing haters to dictate how he runs his life and boxing career? You justify him using haters as an excuse not to take the biggest fight and payday of his life?

I thought that I layed out t he case for how beneficial Pacquiao taking the tests would be. I'll try again. I say all of this assuming he's clean mind you.

1) He'd go into the ring as a clear underdogm against a guy who thinks that he's so good that he's using PEDs.

2) Being an underdog, he'd lose little in a loss as far as respect and fame goes. He'd still be a #2 p4p and the second biggest draw in the sport.

3)(This is the most important incentive) If he won, he'd go down as the best fighter of his era to a lot of people. He'd cement himself as a living legend and guarantee himself $30-40 million plus in a rematch and maybe even more in a trilogy.

Asking how taking the tests would be beneficial to Pacquiao is kind of a dumb question.

[Aut_72]

Floyd said after Mosley fight that they will run no cut off days if they ever agree to fight. Now Pac accepts the 14 days deal knowing that Floyd has already said 14 days isn't good enough anymore. I think Pac lost his chance when he was the top dog and #1 p4p.

Floyd is in the driver seat now so I think there will be no 14 day cut and no 50/50 split.

[AKATheMack]

So, you justify Pacquiao allowing haters to dictate how he runs his life and boxing career? You justify him using haters as an excuse not to take the biggest fight and payday of his life?
No, but the people screaming take the tests or you're dirty are going to find a reason to hate regardless, and actually by not agreeing to the tests hes not allowing haters(Mayweather camp) to run his boxing career.
I thought that I layed out t he case for how beneficial Pacquiao taking the tests would be. I'll try again. I say all of this assuming he's clean mind you.

1) He'd go into the ring as a clear underdogm against a guy who thinks that he's so good that he's using PEDs.
If he honestly believes the tests will weaken him whether physically or mentally why would he agree to take them when he's likely to lose when hes at 100%?
2) Being an underdog, he'd lose little in a loss as far as respect and fame goes. He'd still be a #2 p4p and the second biggest draw in the sport.
He said he only wants 1 more fight so thats irrelevant.
3)(This is the most important incentive) If he won, he'd go down as the best fighter of his era to a lot of people. He'd cement himself as a living legend and guarantee himself $30-40 million plus in a rematch and maybe even more in a trilogy.
He could not take the fight and still possibly go down as the best of this era so thats not really an incentive is it? Again he said 1 more fight so a rematch and trilogy are ****** to bring up.
Asking how taking the tests would be beneficial to Pacquiao is kind of a dumb question.

Its only dumb if you have predetermined responses when you stop and think it actually makes sense.

[nelsoncm]

wtf???

geez man floyd made it very clear that pacquiao screwed up in the negotiations the first time and he said that now its the full protocol. he said this on the mayweather-mosley promotions and in the post fight interview with larry merchant after whopping mosley.

are we all going to forget that now????

pac fans dont act like all of a sudden floyd is going to say no to 14 days now because manny said 14 days was fine.

FLOYD SAID FULL PROTOCOL BEFORE MANNY SAID 14 DAYS WAS FINE

So Floyd dictates the testing now? I didn't know Floyd was more powerful than any boxing commision.