if oscar is an atg..then isnt judah aswell??

[jrosales13]

Oscar is not an ATG...

But, his career was way better than Judah. Oscar is a HOF'er, Judah is not even close. I don't even get why even ask this?

[jaskieee]

One thing i loved about zab was his confidence

Against Cotto, Floyd, Tszyu.

You deffinately couldnt fault his confidence hahaha.

His loss against Tszyu but i dont think anyone could forget that, I bet he still isnt over it.

Anyone heard anything about Judah vs Alexander i remember some hype about that possibly happening after their last fights???

Personally if Devon doesnt have anything better on i think why not?

[BoxerDood]

Oscar is not an ATG...

But, his career was way better than Judah. Oscar is a HOF'er, Judah is not even close. I don't even get why even ask this?

Same thing I said...

Old Sweet Pea alone >>>>>>> Spinks, Ward and Witter

Imagine when you add on the other fights Oscar won. Heck, even...

Losses to Trinidad, Mosley, Hopkins, Mayweater and Pacquiao >>>>>>>>> Losses to Tszyu, Spinks, Baldofrickenmir, Mayweather, Cotto and CLOTTEY (what the hell? He handed that fight to Clottey...)

[IMDAZED]

Same thing I said...

Old Sweet Pea alone >>>>>>> Spinks, Ward and Witter

Imagine when you add on the other fights Oscar won. Heck, even...

Losses to Trinidad, Mosley, Hopkins, Mayweater and Pacquiao >>>>>>>>> Losses to Tszyu, Spinks, Baldofrickenmir, Mayweather, Cotto and CLOTTEY (what the hell? He handed that fight to Clottey...)

To be fair, Pea should've retained the title that night against Oscar. Nevertheless, Judah isn't close to being a HOF'er, let alone an ATG. At least Oscar has one.

[Dan...]

To be fair, Pea should've retained the title that night against Oscar. Nevertheless, Judah isn't close to being a HOF'er, let alone an ATG. At least Oscar has one.

Thats the thing about Oscar. You wanna take the Whitaker and Quartey wins off him? Fine. But how about giving him wins over a prime Tito Trinidad and a juicing Shane Mosley?

You can argue either way on Oscar's status IMO, but one thing is fact - Oscar de la Hoya and Zab Judah are galaxies apart in terms of their ring achievements.

[wangkol]

Oscar dela hoya was overhyped if he was black people not considered him as an ATG if he has mayweather syndrome kind of attitude.Look the way he speak he really gayish to me..I dont know if he rehearse the way he talked to the media so he would be claimed himself as top 5 ATG (ALL TIME GAY).He should be No.1 ATG ....

[IMDAZED]

Thats the thing about Oscar. You wanna take the Whitaker and Quartey wins off him? Fine. But how about giving him wins over a prime Tito Trinidad and a juicing Shane Mosley?

You can argue either way on Oscar's status IMO, but one thing is fact - Oscar de la Hoya and Zab Judah are galaxies apart in terms of their ring achievements.

I don't know how anyone in their right mind thinks Oscar "deserves" anything for that performance against Tito. If it was anyone else half the posters on here would boycott the rest of their career. It is indefensible and was disgraceful. Biggest fight in the millenium and he ran throughout the championship rounds. He deserved to lose. Surprisingly, justice was served.

Obviously, Oscar and Judah are world's apart. One is a HOF'er, one is not. Neither is anything more.

[STRUGG]

oscar greater than judah.............lol....................cept the whinney voice.....

[Mr. Fantastic]

Oscar is not an ATG...

But, his career was way better than Judah. Oscar is a HOF'er, Judah is not even close. I don't even get why even ask this?

But yet Pac is??

Most of Pac's career has been based on out of prime fighters and majority of fights have been against one certain type of style.

[IMDAZED]

But yet Pac is??

Most of Pac's career has been based on out of prime fighters and majority of fights have been against one certain type of style.

Pac beat a prime ATG in Marco Antonio Bareera. In what, his fourth weight class? That alone is far better than anything Oscar ever did.