if oscar is an atg..then isnt judah aswell??

[Calilloyd]

Agreed. Again, a lot of these guys weren't following the sport then. Perfect example:

Oscar wants to fight some LW named Shane Mosley. He is a huge favorite and many are clowning him for taking on Shane who had fought at 147 twice and looked decent at best and was not supposed to be able to match him in size or strength (which was the point). What happens? He goes out and loses to Shane. Shane becomes a star.

Fast forward...

Oscar wants to fight some LW named Manny Pacquiao. He is a huge favorite and many are clowning him for taking on Manny. You get the point.

What am I saying? He is the master of fighting "who" - which is why "when" is so much more important. Even then...he still lost a lot of those fights!

I've said this for a long time IMDAZED on other boxing sites and I get called a hater for it

[MR.CHICANITO]

I hate Oscar but he's fought better competition than Floyd.

nah bro zab judah lost just about every big fight he had in his career..etc..tyzsu,cotto,mayweather and fights he wasnt supposed to lose like the one to carlos baldomir..and oscar delahoya fought way better opponents and actually won some good fights in his career too

[IMDAZED]

De La Hoya's second fight with Chavez was tougher than expected. Oscar and his team probably figured they should get some rest and then do a longer training camp. The original Quartey date was just two months after the Chavez rematch.

Quartey would've been coming off over a year of inactivity regardless if that wasn't postponed. Quartey's schedule got all screwed up when Whitaker had the drug problems and the Trinidad fight got sc****d because of Ike's promotional issues.

Who could forget Oscar gyrating like Elvis after stopping the old man like he'd just KO'ed Roy Jones? No question, he had no intentions of fighting Ike after that unexpected rough match.

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I've said this for a long time IMDAZED on other boxing sites and I get called a hater for it

I know, man! They're like, he beat up Arturo Gatti! Yeah...at 147 when Gatti's career was considered done!

He beat Fernando Vargas! WTF?? Yeah, when it didn't matter no more! ****, he had a tougher time than I thought with that dude!

I'm not knocking Oscar. He is a HOF'er and been great for the sport. But when you say ATG...whoah, whoah, whoah. Don't throw me a bunch of names you read off boxrec! ****, William Joppy beat Roberto Duran!

[Thread Stealer]

Who could forget Oscar gyrating like Elvis after stopping the old man like he'd just KO'ed Roy Jones? No question, he had no intentions of fighting Ike after that unexpected rough match.

That celebration was awful.

Kermit Cintron still has the worst though than I can think of.

[jrosales13]

lol @ this thread

Too bad I had to go to work and couldn't really debate this...

But, IMDAZED did his thing here...

[IMDAZED]

That celebration was awful.

Kermit Cintron still has the worst though than I can think of.

I love Cintron. I really do. He can't help but show his vulnerabilities in the ring. And I don't wanna knock any fighter but I wish he'd stop showing his skirt

[IMDAZED]

lol @ this thread

Too bad I had to go to work and couldn't really debate this...

But, IMDAZED did his thing here...

That's no excuse, J! I was about to send a PM to your a** looking for backup!

[jrosales13]

That's no excuse, J! I was about to send a PM to your a** looking for backup!

You didn't need my help

[Khalid X]

I haven't read this entire thread but I thought it was common knowledge that Oscar isn't an ATG. ATG resume yes, but you have to win most of those fights and he didn't.

Also DLH career ****s on Judah, even though I know you ain't comparing the two Larry, just making a point about actually winning your big fights.