if oscar is an atg..then isnt judah aswell??

[Clyde Barrow]

Crikey.

******ass thread.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Pac beat a prime ATG in Marco Antonio Bareera. In what, his fourth weight class? That alone is far better than anything Oscar ever did.

Prime Marco Antonio Barrera?? Seriously?? Didn't he lose to Junior Jones and Morales years before that?


Whitaker is a greater fighter than Barrera. Oscar's win over Whitaker was better. Might of been close but a victory is a victory.

[BillyBoxing]

both fought the best...and lost

OMG!!!!

First,
if Zab had fought the same cats,he would be 8 losses at least(including 6 kos).
I have Mosley twice,Trinidad,Hopkins,Bazooka Quartey,even probably Sturm or Vargas knocking out Zab.

Not to mention Oscar should have two ATG wins over a prime Trinidad,and a prime Mosley (rematch) if he wasn't robbed.

Oscar fought the bests in 6 divisions,he wasn't lucky with the judges sometimes.
He's champ in 6 divisions(well 5 in reality),gold medalist,something Zab could only dream about.
He fought PBF and Hopkins at the end of his career,he has balls.

[TOBYLEE1]

What is Judah's biggest win? Spinks? He is more memorable for the KO he suffered agains Kotsya

[badboy125]

why does oscar get ****ted on and others like evander holyfield are respected?

imo both of them have sneaky sides to them that we dont see

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Crikey.

******ass thread.

What do you expect in this place?

[IMDAZED]

Prime Marco Antonio Barrera?? Seriously?? Didn't he lose to Junior Jones and Morales years before that?


Whitaker is a greater fighter than Barrera. Oscar's win over Whitaker was better. Might of been close but a victory is a victory.

Mr. Fantastic...you obviously just started watching the sport. I can't believe what I'm reading. Losing doesn't mean you are out of your prime. So what are you talking about?

Yes, Barrera lost the first fight to Junior Jones and then lost an extremely tight decision in the rematch where he closed the stronger fighter. The Morales fight (another prime ATG) could have gone either way and most felt he was robbed. Nevertheless, he bounced back to beat Morales and Hamed, along with Kevin Kelly, Enrique Sanchez and Johnny Tapia. He was an enormous favorite over Pacquiao. That's a far cry from the Whitaker who everyone expected Oscar to KO, especially since Whitaker had been dropped twice in his last fight and needed a miracle to pull off the win. The Whitaker who was already out the door and was on the verge of a substance ban suspension months later. Not to mention, a fight many felt Pea won. Very surprised at your reasoning here.

[rizkybizness]

damn, larry

what happened??!?!?!!?

[Doorag]

This thread was a bad idea.

[BillyBoxing]

But yet Pac is??

Most of Pac's career has been based on out of prime fighters and majority of fights have been against one certain type of style.

Depending.

Honnestly,there is no proof,Barrera,Morales and Hatton were shot.
If prime is being undefeated and 25 years old,then most of ATG based their records on shot fighters.

I mean,Barrera was on the roll when he fought Manny,and 29 years old.
Morales was 30,and a loss to a slick fighter like Raheem doesn't mean you are shot,maybe Raheem had his number.

I thought Fatton was himself stopping Malignaggi.

Cotto was damaged good,but Manny is a midget,Cotto has no excuse.It's a great win.
Nobody ever done that,handling easy a WW champ altough being basically a flyweight,featherweight's soldier.

Clottey wasn't shot,but "he refused to fight" is the new talk huh?

I think you guys are funny.