if oscar is an atg..then isnt judah aswell??

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  • ThePlugInBabies
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    #51
    lol this thread, people have the audacity to list mosley and trinidad as people DLH beat and in the same sentence mention his 'wins' over sweet pea, quartey and strum.

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    • o0P4PBOXING0o
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      #52
      I dont know who made this thread but comparing Judah to De La Hoya is a complete joke. Oscar always fought the best throughout his career, That's the one thing you can't criticise about him. He always fought the best and almost always gave a good account of himself. Except for the Pacquiao fight when he was just totally drained.

      Look at the guys who Oscar beat or who he lost close decisions to....

      Julio Cesar Chavez
      Shane Mosley
      Floyd Mayweather
      Ike Quartey
      Oba Carr
      Felix Trinidad
      Ricardo Mayorga

      I would favour all of these guys to knock Judah out, Ok Mayweather didnt but he was about to before the low blow stopped him momtentum. After that he was content to just outbox Judah and make him look silly for the last couple of rounds.

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      • Emphasis
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        #53
        Originally posted by o0P4PBOXING0o
        I dont know who made this thread but comparing Judah to De La Hoya is a complete joke. Oscar always fought the best throughout his career, That's the one thing you can't criticise about him. He always fought the best and almost always gave a good account of himself. Except for the Pacquiao fight when he was just totally drained.

        Look at the guys who Oscar beat or who he lost close decisions to....

        Julio Cesar Chavez
        Shane Mosley
        Floyd Mayweather
        Ike Quartey
        Oba Carr
        Felix Trinidad
        Ricardo Mayorga

        I would favour all of these guys to knock Judah out, Ok Mayweather didnt but he was about to before the low blow stopped him momtentum. After that he was content to just outbox Judah and make him look silly for the last couple of rounds.
        Say what you want about Judah, but he always fought top competition.

        Sure he usually always lost to them, but that doesn't mean he didn't sign to fight them in the first place.

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        • o0P4PBOXING0o
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          #54
          Originally posted by Emphasis
          Say what you want about Judah, but he always fought top competition.

          Sure he usually always lost to them, but that doesn't mean he didn't sign to fight them in the first place.
          He fought Tszyu, Mayweather, Cotto, Spinks, Clottey, Baldomir

          Lost to all of them

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          • Emphasis
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            #55
            Originally posted by o0P4PBOXING0o
            He fought Tszyu, Mayweather, Cotto, Spinks, Clottey, Baldomir

            Lost to all of them
            So did De La Hoya.

            He didn't fight the same exact people but he lost to almost all the top competitors he fought.

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            • o0P4PBOXING0o
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              #56
              Originally posted by Emphasis
              So did De La Hoya.

              He didn't fight the same exact people but he lost to almost all the top competitors he fought.
              Oscar beat Chavez, Quartey and Whitaker

              Arguably Mosley and Trinidad too.

              Judah beat nobody. There is a difference

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              • Emphasis
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                #57
                Originally posted by o0P4PBOXING0o
                Oscar beat Chavez, Quartey and Whitaker

                Arguably Mosley and Trinidad too.

                Judah beat nobody. There is a difference
                Did De La Hoya ever fight an elite in their prime and won? His wins can also be argued against him.

                I don't want to go back and forth trying to drag fighters down, but you have to be consistent and admit that Judah fought top competitors also, despite losing.

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                • Dan...
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Emphasis
                  Did De La Hoya ever fight an elite in their prime and won? His wins can also be argued against him.

                  I don't want to go back and forth trying to drag fighters down, but you have to be consistent and admit that Judah fought top competitors also, despite losing.
                  Ike Quartey.

                  Zab lost to ALL the top guys he fought. He doesn't have a win that comes close to Oscar's wins over Chavez, Pea, Quartey or Vargas.

                  People need to stop with this ****. If you don't want to categorise Oscar as an ATG that is fine, but do not ****ing go saying that Zab Judah and Oscar belong in the same sentence.

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                  • Dan...
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by o0P4PBOXING0o
                    Oscar beat Chavez, Quartey and Whitaker

                    Arguably Mosley and Trinidad too.

                    Judah beat nobody. There is a difference
                    Apparently not according to several idiots in this thread.

                    The agenda against Oscar on here is honestly beyond pathetic.

                    Oh, the **** makes money, lets hate on him. Pack of hypocritical ****s.

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                    • IMDAZED
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                      #60
                      Neither are ATGs.

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