Top 10 Welterweights right now IMO

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  • fightingfigs
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    #41
    Originally posted by Benny Leonard
    How?

    For beating a dead Oscar?

    For beating a Plasterd Cotto?

    For beating Clottey who also lost to Margarito>

    Shane beat Margarito who beat Cotto for The Title.

    Shane's the Man. Pac had his chance to fight Shane and avoided it.
    Cotto beat Shane and the cycle continues. who really is margarito?? The guy without an edge really had nothing. I feel that if Cotto fought that same margarito there would be a different story to tell.

    Bottomline Pacquiao is the number one fighter, even if you compare resumes. Pacquiaos resume may not be as long as Mosleys but since hes moved up in weight Id say Currently Pacquiaos winning streak proves much more than Shanes. Pacquiao fought two of the top 5 welters whereas Shane has only fought 1

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    • Benny Leonard
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      #42
      Originally posted by baracuda
      cotto was arguably the best ww when pac beat him.....it was either him or shane and cotto beat shane.......that s a fact......you do the math...
      How can you be arguably the best when you were brutally beaten down and lost your title?

      Undefeated/Pre-Brutally beaten Cotto beat Shane in a very close fight. Pac fought the brutally beaten version. Do you understand it wasn't the same exact version of the man?

      One was undefeated one was not.

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      • baracuda
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        #43
        Originally posted by o0P4PBOXING0o
        Don't your understand basic logic?

        Margarito destroyed Cotto

        Shane destroyed Margarito therefore Shane is the man

        Pacquiao beating Cotto AFTER Margarito beats him at a CATCHWEIGHT does not in any way mean Pacquiao is better than Shane. It wasnt even a welterweight fight FFS. It was at a catchweight so you cant even say it counts
        either cotto or shane was the ww # 1.....now , cotto beat shane , fact!...whos logic is flawed?......

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        • baracuda
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          #44
          Originally posted by Benny Leonard
          How can you be arguably the best when you were brutally beaten down and lost your title?

          Undefeated/Pre-Brutally beaten Cotto beat Shane in a very close fight. Pac fought the brutally beaten version. Do you understand it wasn't the same exact version of the man?

          One was undefeated one was not.
          so who were the top 2 ww last november?.........

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          • Benny Leonard
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            #45
            Originally posted by fightingfigs
            Cotto beat Shane and the cycle continues. who really is margarito?? The guy without an edge really had nothing. I feel that if Cotto fought that same margarito there would be a different story to tell.

            Bottomline Pacquiao is the number one fighter, even if you compare resumes. Pacquiaos resume may not be as long as Mosleys but since hes moved up in weight Id say Currently Pacquiaos winning streak proves much more than Shanes. Pacquiao fought two of the top 5 welters whereas Shane has only fought 1
            Who did he beat at 147 to make him #1?

            Brutally beaten Cotto who lost his title to Margarito?

            Clottey who also lost to Margarito and who loses big fights and didn't look good either against Cotto who {Cotto} also didn't look good in that fight which many have mentioned including Freddie Roach?

            Or Shane Mosley who brutally beat Margarito (who brutally beat Cotto) and it was for a TITLE. That same title Margarito took from Cotto.

            Shane went inactive because he was having trouble setting up a big fight. Pac could have helped him out with that all of last year if he would have accepted the fight with Shane...but he did not.

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            • Benny Leonard
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              #46
              Originally posted by baracuda
              so who were the top 2 ww last november?.........
              Shane was #1 and then the rest.

              #2 doesn't matter. If anything, it would be up for grabs.

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              • baracuda
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                #47
                Originally posted by Benny Leonard
                Shane was #1 and then the rest.

                #2 doesn't matter. If anything, it would be up for grabs.
                lol....ok, im out........

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Benny Leonard
                  How?

                  For beating a dead Oscar?

                  For beating a Plasterd Cotto?

                  For beating Clottey who also lost to Margarito>

                  Shane beat Margarito who beat Cotto for The Title.

                  Shane's the Man. Pac had his chance to fight Shane and avoided it.

                  cotto who schooled shane mosley?

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                  • nujabes77
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                    #49
                    how can you rank shane as number 1 when hes only had 1 fight @ ww in 2 years?


                    even boxrec does not have shane mosley as active welterweight fighter

                    pacquiao is the man @ ww weather you like it or not benny

                    http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?sex=m&...n=Welterweight

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                    • Benny Leonard
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by maidana777
                      how can you rank shane as number 1 when hes only had 1 fight @ ww in 2 years?


                      even boxrec does not have shane mosley as active welterweight fighter

                      pacquiao is the man @ ww weather you like it or not benny

                      http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?sex=m&...n=Welterweight
                      Seriously, BR?

                      They have Floyd at #2 despite not having fought a WW in how long?

                      Shane would have had a fight had Pac fought him last year at any point.

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