Top 10 Welterweights right now IMO

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  • Benny Leonard
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    #11
    Originally posted by shogunn
    margarito without the magic wraps? he gets no credit
    No credit? Margarito couldn't even get off a punch. And it's speculative that he had illegal wraps or not.


    Pac avoided Shane

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    • o0P4PBOXING0o
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      #12
      Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
      FLoyd hasnt fought a WW in 3 years, Cotto is moving up for one fight to 154
      The thread says "Top WW's right now" meaning I consider Floyd #3. Forget his retirement, He has a better resume than the people below him. I could have put Cotto on their but he is going for 1- maybe 2 fights at 154 then retiring.

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      • Ch@mpBox@PR
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        #13
        Originally posted by Benny Leonard
        How?

        For beating a dead Oscar?

        For beating a Plasterd Cotto?

        For beating Clottey who also lost to Margarito>

        Shane beat Margarito who beat Cotto for The Title.


        Shane's the Man. Pac had his chance to fight Shane and avoided it.
        And Cotto beat Shane. Plus Pac beat Cotto who was the #2 WW and then Clottey who was #4. Shane only beat Margarito and then lay off for year and a half

        Originally posted by o0P4PBOXING0o
        Pacquiao is no2 because he has only fought at WW twice

        Mosley is #1 because he has the best WW resume.
        Mosley in his last 2 fights, he is 1-1 at the weight. Pacquiao Beat Clottey and TKO Cotto teh same man who beat shane, plus shane inactivity.

        SOrri but Pac is the main man

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        • shogunn
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          #14
          Originally posted by Benny Leonard
          No credit? Margarito couldn't even get off a punch. And it's speculative that he had illegal wraps or not.


          Pac avoided Shane

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          no credit, mosley didnt beat the same margarito everyone else fought.

          shane avoided the wraps, and before that he was fighting WW's who arent even in teh game any more, besides Cotto, and we know how that turned out

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          • Ch@mpBox@PR
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            #15
            Originally posted by o0P4PBOXING0o
            The thread says "Top WW's right now" meaning I consider Floyd #3. Forget his retirement, He has a better resume than the people below him. I could have put Cotto on their but he is going for 1- maybe 2 fights at 154 then retiring.
            WTF is that nonsense you just wrote?

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              #16
              Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
              And Cotto beat Shane. Plus Pac beat Cotto who was the #2 WW and then Clottey who was #4. Shane only beat Margarito and then lay off for year and a half



              Mosley in his last 2 fights, he is 1-1 at the weight. Pacquiao Beat Clottey and TKO Cotto teh same man who beat shane, plus shane inactivity.

              SOrri but Pac is the main man
              Cotto did beat Mosley and he gets credit for that but he is 154 now so I dont know why even bring him up? The point here is that Shane has the best resume as a Welterweight because he beat the guy who was #1 (Margarito) and others. While Pacquiao went after Cotto (Who Margarito had just destroyed) and beat him at a catchweight. So that doesnt even count

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              • Benny Leonard
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                #17
                Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
                And Cotto beat Shane. Plus Pac beat Cotto who was the #2 WW and then Clottey who was #4. Shane only beat Margarito and then lay off for year and a half



                Mosley in his last 2 fights, he is 1-1 at the weight. Pacquiao Beat Clottey and TKO Cotto teh same man who beat shane, plus shane inactivity.

                SOrri but Pac is the main man
                a PRIME Undefeated version of Cotto beat Shane (in a close fight).

                Pac beat a destroyed version of Cotto. The same Cotto who had guys like Freddie Roach and Teddy Atlas wondering if Cotto was past it...especially after seeing his performance against Clottey (who also shut it down in that fight).

                Shane had a layoff because he could not get a top level fighter to fight him which included asking Pac for a fight all of last year. Although, there was the possibility of fighting Paul Williams though...but Pac's in the same boat with Shane with regards to Williams

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by shogunn
                  no credit, mosley didnt beat the same margarito everyone else fought.

                  shane avoided the wraps, and before that he was fighting WW's who arent even in teh game any more, besides Cotto, and we know how that turned out

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                  How so?

                  Show me proof he didn't fight the same Margarito.

                  Margarito couldn't even get off his punches because the speed of Shane was too much. That's what the difference was. Shane attacked and attacked and kicked his ass. Actually, what ended the fight was that brutal body-shot very early in the fight. Game Over after that.

                  Pac beat a corpse in Oscar and an E.R. patient in Cotto. At least Margarito was alive.

                  And instead of fighting Shane, he fought a beat up Hatton prior to Cotto.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Benny Leonard
                    a PRIME Undefeated version of Cotto beat Shane (in a close fight).

                    Pac beat a destroyed version of Cotto. The same Cotto who had guys like Freddie Roach and Teddy Atlas wondering if Cotto was past it...especially after seeing his performance against Clottey (who also shut it down in that fight).

                    Shane had a layoff because he could not get a top level fighter to fight him which included asking Pac for a fight all of last year. Although, there was the possibility of fighting Paul Williams though...but Pac's in the same boat with Shane with regards to Williams
                    then, floyd wil be fighting a ruined fightr in shane by forrest, winky and cotto.....

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by baracuda
                      then, floyd wil be fighting a ruined fightr in shane by forrest, winky and cotto.....
                      Shane is the man right now.

                      Becuase he beat the man (Margarito) who was the man because he beat Cotto. So I dont get how you can say "Shane lost to Cotto and Pacquiao beat a shot Cotto at a catchweight so he is better". That's just a totally flawed argument because Shane beat the man who destroyed Cotto before Pacquiao.

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