Top 10 Welterweights right now IMO

[Siggy]

1.pac
2.mosley
3.floyd
4.berto
5.margarito
6.clottey
7.collazo
8.quintana
9.alvarez
10.bailey

now if i were to include cotto on the list i'd put him at 4 and everybody else slides down.

[Benny Leonard]

then, floyd wil be fighting a ruined fightr in shane by forrest, winky and cotto.....

Shane's Past his prime but not ruined. Nobody has knocked him out let alone brutally beaten him like Margarito did to Cotto. And Shane did beat a top level fighter again in Margarito convincingly. Cotto didn't.

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1.pac
2.mosley
3.floyd
4.berto
5.margarito
6.clottey
7.collazo
8.quintana
9.alvarez
10.bailey

now if i were to include cotto on the list i'd put him at 4 and everybody else slides down.

Saul Alavarez? Aside from being undefeated what has he done???

I dont know how you can rank him above Zaveck, Ndou or Jackiewicz who are all proven guys at 147. Alvarez has got skills but he is no way top 10

[baracuda]

Shane's Past his prime but not ruined. Nobody has knocked him out let alone brutally beaten him like Margarito did to Cotto. And Shane did beat a top level fighter again in Margarito convincingly. Cotto didn't.

he was kd'd twice by forrest and will be an iold 38 year fighter on may 1st......a 28 year old cotto>>>>>>>>a 38 year old shane dont you think?........lol

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he was kd'd twice by forrest and will be an iold 38 year fighter on may 1st......a 28 year old cotto>>>>>>>>a 38 year old shane dont you think?........lol

The age doesnt reflect if you are past it or not. Fights do

Mosley....Coming off his biggest win since DLH

Cotto - Been in alot of wars, Ruined by Margo. Barely beat Clottey

This is what you need to look at. Not the fights with Vernon Forrest (RIP) which were almost 8 years ago. Look at the form. Cotto was damaged goods when Pacquiao fought him. Right now Mosley is the man to beat at WW

[baracuda]

The age doesnt reflect if you are past it or not. Fights do

Mosley....Coming off his biggest win since DLH

Cotto - Been in alot of wars, Ruined by Margo. Barely beat Clottey

This is what you need to look at. Not the fights with Vernon Forrest (RIP) which were almost 8 years ago. Look at the form. Cotto was damaged goods when Pacquiao fought him. Right now Mosley is the man to beat at WW

lol...oh boy...so age is nothing but a number inboxing huhh?.........

[Benny Leonard]

he was kd'd twice by forrest and will be an iold 38 year fighter on may 1st......a 28 year old cotto>>>>>>>>a 38 year old shane dont you think?........lol

Not a brutally beaten Cotto. When Freddie Roach calls your number to fight you...worry about where you are at in your career. That's why Floyd should be worried.

Freddie Roach was ruined at what...26 and told to retire by Eddie Futch?
Age is something to look at closely but it doesn't tell the full story.

Shane was good enough to be avoided by Pac but Cotto wasn't who got the fight.

[baracuda]

Not a brutally beaten Cotto. When Freddie Roach calls your number to fight you...worry about where you are at in your career. That's why Floyd should be worried.

Freddie Roach was ruined at what...26 and told to retire by Eddie Futch?
Age is something to look at closely but it doesn't tell the full story.

Shane was good enough to be avoided by Pac but Cotto wasn't who got the fight.

the biggest bull**** ive ever heard...........pac fought the guy who beat shane years ago.....pac was scheduled to fight clottye even before berto vs shane fell apaprt......how come none of the experts ever critisizd pac for bieng a cherrypicker but were lots of em to floyd?....

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lol...oh boy...so age is nothing but a number inboxing huhh?.........

I never said that. Your just missing the point

[Siggy]

Saul Alavarez? Aside from being undefeated what has he done???

I dont know how you can rank him above Zaveck, Ndou or Jackiewicz who are all proven guys at 147. Alvarez has got skills but he is no way top 10

my list isnt exactly scientific, its just based on talent/skill and outside of the top 3 is based on who i'd favor over the other. even right now as a 19 y/o i'd favor alvarez over zaveck, ndou or jackiewicz