Benn: "Jones dodged me", Eubank: "Roy avoided my calls", Collins: "Roy ran scared!",

[RoyJonesJrp4pno1]

It sounds like you didn't see the fights? 2-3 years before Eastman was still the WBC mandatory! So yes he DID deserve a shot at the WBC belt.

If you saw the Eastman vs Joppy fight, you wouldn't suggest that Eastman was schooled... I though Eastman fell victim to a home town decsion.

I did see the fight. Eastman was lazy throughout the whole fight. Joppy won the fight through cleaner punching and aggresiveness throughout the bout.

The Joppy-Eastman fight was for the WBA title in 2002 which was 3 years before the Hopkins-Eastman fight in 2005. Tell me how Eastman deserved a shot against Hopkins in 2002 by losing to Joppy coming off a brutal KO to Tito who Hopkins toyed with.

[simeraksou]

Roy Jones is super special.. possibly the most talented boxer ever and definitely the most talented of this generation. He didn't need to box, he's an all around athlete. In fact, he was accepted into the NBA (not as a starter). Why do you say he's uneducated? He has post-secondary education in business and he has his own company, Square Ring. You sound like just one of those anti-jones shaft kissers.

I don't follow you, Anorak. You think Jones is cool. Lots of people don't. You asked why he is unlikable but I don't think you really want an answer. You like him. I don't. Everything's cool. To each his own.

But since you asked, i don't like him because he postures himself like he's this super special person doing boxing a favor by even fighting, like he could have been a movie star or a rocket scientist no problem if he wasn't a fighter. Big laugh, that.

He tries to act intelligent and polished and sophisticated and he's just an uneducated pug from Pensacola. That would be fine, if he didn't walk the dog and try to pretend he's way above that. Ali's ego was cool, Roy's just makes him a punk.

[JUYJUY]

LMAO.

When McCallum beat Watson in '90....Mike was already past his prime,
& D-A-M-N, he absolutely slaughtered Watson.
I dare you to find another fight in which one fighter so thoroughly took apart another. I dare you.
Watson had every inch of his body PASTED by McCallum, while his own offense was turned into pathetic swats of desperation.
Then.....McCallum sent watson crashing to the floor....broken completely apart.

Doesn't matter when they COULD have fought....the FACT is that Ol' Mike McCallum took YEARS off the young Watson's boxing career when they DID fight.

If anyone wants to see a clinic, get your hands on McCallum-Watson.

BTW.....Watson was the favorite going in, & the fight was fought in England. Watson had every advantage, except for BOXING ABILITY.

You try fighting with a bout of the flu and a broken thumb, Watson was clearly not in any state to fight that night.

[RoyJonesJrp4pno1]

I know what you mean man... How many Glenn Kelly's - Gonzalez's - Clinton Woods - etc did we have to sit through whilst Bernard Hopikns and Joe Calzaghe were jumping up and down wanting to go up in weight and challenge him!


I dunno... He got knocked down a few times in the Gerald McClellan fight and took some MASSIVE blows, but never gave up... And went on to win!

Why didn't Calzaghe or Hopkins move up and become a number 1 ABC contender then? Why did Hopkins refuse a 40% split against a guy that had already beaten him if he was so desperate for revenge as you say he is. HBO offered Hopkins a contract with the contract being void if Hopkins lost a fight as any contract with any fighter on the network. However if Hopkins lost to Roy his contract with HBO wouldn't have been voided. 40% wasn't good enough for Bernard but he took a 20% cut to fight De la Hoya how you explain this.

As for Julio Gonzalez he went to Germany and kicked Darius' ass Y'all musta forgot homie.

[JUYJUY]

No. You said that. I don't care how much money they made. It was about how much money Roy Jones could make, and he could make more money staying home fighting the guys he did then traipsing off to germany or the UK to fight some pantywaist for chump change.

Jones Jr could of made millions of dollars against Benn or Eubank in the UK. Benn, Eubank and Collins were all publicly saying time and time again in 1995 and 1996 that they wanted to fight Jones Jr in America but Jones Jr BLATANTLY avoided them.
Stop lying.

So why wasn't he in Vegas fighting the best? Like I posted, these guys wanna hunker down on there rainy, gloomy little island let them do it. Just don't bellyache later about how bad you are and how American fighters "ducked" you.

Eubank fought all of his mandatory contenders, including plenty of American's. He wasn't in Vegas fighting the best at the end of his career because Roy Jones and James Toney didn't want to fight him. There was nobody else out there. Before Toney and Roy Jones came along, Eubank WAS the best! He was Ring Magazine Super-Middleweight Champion in 1992.
Stop lying.

Who gives a rat's ass what Ring Magazine thinks? Hopkins was better than McClellan every day of the week. And any magazine rating Roy Jones number two in them days has got it wrong. Lots of fighters get rated at certain slots for a variety of reasons that have little to do with how they would actually fair against the opponents rated higher than them in the ring. At one time Marvis Frazier was rated above Mike Tyson, for example.

Hardly anybody, not even American's, knew who the heck Hopkins was back then. So to suggest that he was better than McClellan every day of the week is plain ridiculous. Roy Jones was IBF champion at the time, McClellan was WBC champion. Roy Jones was the number two Middleweight, McClellan was the number one Middleweight. Like it or lump it.
Stop lying.

Griffin is as good as ANY middle to come out of your country since the 1920's.

I'm glad I quoted you here, so that we can all laugh at you.
Stop lying.



This is why the whole world hates America, because of your stinking attitudes and all your damn lies.

[cvt]

This is why the whole world hates America, because of your stinking attitudes and all your damn lies.

you just made idiot of the week. cong****. now go lace up some gloves and talk about boxing instead of talking about stats, rankings, and interviews.

[JUYJUY]

you just made idiot of the week. cong****. now go lace up some gloves and talk about boxing instead of talking about stats, rankings, and interviews.

Well it's true, you make yourselves so difficult to admire. Why are all American's full of hatred? Why do they try to bully other countries? Why do they over-rated themselves and over-exaggerate themselves? Why do they plain and simple bull****? It's beyond a joke FFS. It's been proven that the UK is the most successful boxing country in the world based on how many World Champion's we have produced with such a tiny population, and remember that boxing first started in London - that is where it all began.

It's guys like the 30stonegorilla who ****s yourselves up. It pisses me off, man.

[Super_Lightweight]

hmm

Well it's true, you make yourselves so difficult to admire. Why are all American's full of hatred? Why do they try to bully other countries? Why do they over-rated themselves and over-exaggerate themselves? Why do they plain and simple bull****? It's beyond a joke FFS. It's been proven that the UK is the most successful boxing country in the world based on how many World Champion's we have produced with such a tiny population, and remember that boxing first started in London - that is where it all began.

It's guys like the 30stonegorilla who ****s yourselves up. It pisses me off, man.

You bring yourself down to the level of people who supposedly are "beneath" you. You show your true colors. You're too blind to see that you are an embarrassment to the very nation you represent. An embarrassment to the world, really.

[cvt]

Well it's true, you make yourselves so difficult to admire. Why are all American's full of hatred? Why do they try to bully other countries? Why do they over-rated themselves and over-exaggerate themselves? Why do they plain and simple bull****? It's beyond a joke FFS. It's been proven that the UK is the most successful boxing country in the world based on how many World Champion's we have produced with such a tiny population, and remember that boxing first started in London - that is where it all began.

It's guys like the 30stonegorilla who ****s yourselves up. It pisses me off, man.

i wouldn't say american's in general are full of hatred. the propoganda machine of the american government is what stirs things up. and as for right now america is not the most popular country (invading a country that had no WMD and breaking the geneva convention will do that). of course the current president is not the sharpest tool in the box. how intersting that the economy is ****, we are no where near as safe as we were from ********* attack, and the so called homeland security technology is more aimed at keep it's citizens on check. on a side note...the UK is not without a history of fault (and blood).

[BadMagick]

Well it's true, you make yourselves so difficult to admire. Why are all American's full of hatred? Why do they try to bully other countries? Why do they over-rated themselves and over-exaggerate themselves? Why do they plain and simple bull****? It's beyond a joke FFS. It's been proven that the UK is the most successful boxing country in the world based on how many World Champion's we have produced with such a tiny population, and remember that boxing first started in London - that is where it all began.

It's guys like the 30stonegorilla who ****s yourselves up. It pisses me off, man.

Well, maybe if you go per capita, you're more successful, but your greats can't even touch ours in terms of skill. Let's just look at heavyweights: Ali, Louis, Foreman, Fraizer, and Holmes. Name on Brit, besides Lennox, who, from what I understand, claims Canada as his home, who could take him.

We might as well just name a few more: Marvin Hagler, Tommy Hearns, Ray Leonard, Floyd Mayweather, etc. Oh, right, let's not forget the one considered the greatest boxer to ever live, ANYWHERE: Sugar Ray Robinson. Britain is NOT the best country, I hate to break it to you. We've put out the greatest boxers ever. It doesn't matter where it started, either. That'd be like saying Hakeem Olajuwon isn't one of the greatest centers in the NBA ever, because basketball originated in the USA, and he's not from the USA.